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4 cylinder towing non folding travel trailer

Discussion in 'Towing' started by rmg, Aug 11, 2009.

  1. Sep 27, 2016 at 4:02 AM
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    2.7 auto towing a 21'. Pulls fine at 70mph and the mpg varies between 14.5 to 16. What more wold you want? You here all kinds of crap from guys saying a 4 cylinder can't tow. The diff will blow up, you will only be going 40mph, fuel mileage will be high.

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  2. Sep 29, 2016 at 7:49 AM
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    I always find it hilarious when the FATMOBILE crowd tries to suggest that a smaller engine will burn sooooooo much fuel when you tow with it. Yeah, so when you pull something really big with it, it burns AN ENTIRE 50% MORE FUEL!!!! Oh my god! But what they aren't INTELLIGENT enough to realize, is that even when it is burning 50% more fuel, it is STILL burning less fuel than their stupid fatmobile burns when it is COMPLETELY EMPTY!
     
  3. Sep 29, 2016 at 8:06 AM
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    Tow rating for the 4 cyl is 3500 lbs. Anything at or below that should be fine.
     
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  4. Sep 29, 2016 at 8:15 AM
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    That is a dangerous oversimplification.
    It can pull more, very safely, or less, very unsafely.
    Its about the load, its balance, aerodynamics, and a whole slew of other variables.
     
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  5. Sep 29, 2016 at 10:31 AM
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    Not as much at this weight. 3500 lbs is fairly modest. And for someone who's towed closed to the limit with a 4 cyl Taco...3500 lbs or less is not that big of a deal. Will you be able to charge up a mountain pass at 80mph? No, but you shouldn't do that anyway. Will you have to account for longer stopping distances? Sure...but that's the case with any vehicle while towing. Keep the tongue weight within the proper limit and as much of the weight as you can over the trailer's axels and 3500 lbs or less will be fine....assuming what your towing isn't 20 ft tall with poor aerodynamics. Is so...that will need to be factored in. Toyota underrates the Taco's towing capacity on purpose. It's not known for it's towing prowess...so why not play it safe and build in a big margin of safety. The "mine's bigger than yours" towing battles between manufacturers is in the 1/2 ton market.
     
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  6. Sep 30, 2016 at 4:22 AM
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    Guys with the V6 motors are pulling 5000 lbs. The 4cyl 4WD and prerunner have the same suspension, diff, and brakes. The only real limiting factor is the horsepower difference. The truck would brake and handle the weight the same as the V6 but acceleration would be slower.
     
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  7. Sep 30, 2016 at 5:55 AM
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    You can pull something with a transport tractor that weighs only 500 pounds and is VERY DANGEROUS. The fact that you can't recognize that means that its time for you to sell that truck and get a prius, since you are very unqualified to be towing ANYTHING.
     
  8. Sep 30, 2016 at 7:49 AM
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    What the heck are you talking about???
     
  9. Sep 30, 2016 at 7:51 AM
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    Stay off the road if you are incapable of understanding.
     
  10. Sep 30, 2016 at 8:00 AM
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    Your statement is vague and unclear as to the point or disagreement with the statement you quoted.
    @tgear.shead Are you a certified DOT towing expert?

    Not to pick a fight, but there is nothing wrong with the statement made by @Plain Jane Taco.

    There are a lot of factors that go into towing.
    -500# object can be very dangerous when towed, depending on the preparation taken to secure load.

    Please be more direct and clear regarding your statements so that others can either learn from them or learn not to listen to you.
     
  11. Sep 30, 2016 at 8:02 AM
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    Statement needs to be vague, because of the variety of possible loads.
    And no, it isn't all about being "secured". It is also about BALANCE, and AERODYNAMICS.
     
  12. Sep 30, 2016 at 8:11 AM
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  13. Sep 30, 2016 at 10:23 AM
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    Someone needs to lay off the energy drinks...or at least rub one off to relieve some tension. Did you even read my post? Did I not mention tongue and axle weight...i.e. balance? And I mentioned aerodynamics as well. More than once I towed 3000+ lbs in an 09 base, regular cab, 2wd, 4 cyl, auto...argueable the least capable tower in the Taco lineup, without drama or issue. But hey....what do I know?
     
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  14. Sep 30, 2016 at 10:30 AM
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    Unless he's talking about a base 2wd. But I think all 4 cyl's are rated the same.
     
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    Yes, all the 4 cylinder Tacoma's are rated for the same 3500# regardless of the drive train (4x4, 4x2, Automatic, or Manual Transmission).
     
  16. Sep 30, 2016 at 11:50 AM
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    True. I was referring to the suspension differences between the 5 and 6 lug rigs though. But yeah....3500 lbs on all of them. :thumbsup:
     
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    uh,my 07 had a factory hitch, and wiring, even came with the rubber toyota receiver plug, so some of these statements are untruths, i also wasnt impressed with the towing prowess of the little engine n manual trans that tried :turtleride:. there is no replacement for displacement.:muscleflexing:
     
  18. Sep 30, 2016 at 2:39 PM
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    What statements are not true? That fact still remains that 3500 lbs is the max tow weight recommend by Toyota...with a fair amount of safety factor built in.

    Now if you're only measuring success on acceleration while towing at or near the limit, then it may be considered a failure by some. But there is more to towing than how fast you can get moving. Success or failure can actually be quite subjective depending on what one's expectations are. :thumbsup:
     
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    the fact that it didn't come with a factory hitch-n-wiring, it was also a manual 4x4
     
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    what....
     
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