45acp’s DIVORCED build!

I have plenty of room under the bed now since I don't have the stock crossmember.

Problem right now is, I completely forgot that the stupid gas tank is in the way if I want to relocate the shocks through the bed if I had the tire positioned as in the pic above.

Either I need to-

bring the shocks through the bed perpendicular to the axle and remove the tailgate and the spare tire overhangs a few inches (not really big deal to me unless it's hanging out halfway or something) (a 40" would stick out several inches, just a little past the recovery shackle)

or

keep the tailgate on, and the spare in the bed and relocate the shocks under the bed in the typical /\ but keep in mind I want to go with 63" chevy springs and creeper joints, so I don't know for sure if /\ will allow full use of that spring setup.

What say you guys?

And thanks Adam, great idea for the spare driveshaft/CVs. I'll definitely have to incorporate that into the whole thing.

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Are you planning on mounting your spare right there? Would you consider mounting it further back (up against the back glass)? Cause then you could bolt down a in bed tool box in front of that like the picture Box Rocket posted. That just seems like the best way to utilize bed space and still be able to mount a 40" tire. Or try and fab up a mount for it for the rear bumper lol

 

This. I think with proper shock mounts you can get a setup that will allow the 63's to work just fine and allow you to keep the spare in the bed, and still have a tailgate. that would definitely be my preference.

Just out of curiosity, why are you ditching your CBI tire carrier? Seems like it would be extremely useful right now. get your big spare tire up out of the bed so it's not taking all your room. You could still angle the rear shocks like /\ but if they needed to you could cut a hole in the bed that is centered to allow a longer shock to come up through the bed if necessary. The tire carrier also leaves you with room for jerrys and storage boxes.

Seems to me like bed space is at a premium now more than ever after the bed bob. Why take up all the space with a big spare tire?

Oh and with the angled shocks. I would lean them backward too toward the tailgate. You'll lose a small amount of damping but it will give you a little extra room for longer shocks and probably be easier to clear the fuel tank.

 

Based on the rack design/use it is easier to keep the tire near the back of the bed.

I'm starting up school again here soon and won't have much if any time for wheeling right now. I honestly hardly ever carry anything in the bed anyway. Plus I figured if I got rid of the tire carrier now, it would motivate me to figure out this rack deal.

I'd like to keep the COG as low as I can get it to help with crawling. Plus I'm trying to go for a cage/rack design that's sort of a cross between yours and jberry's.



I want to have different rack options to do stuff like pictured below, or be able to mount extra boxes like you do sometimes or bikes, etc.



Trying to go for something that is as flexible/modular as possible.

 

Now that I look at it again... might be an option. I'd probably have to widen the cage to get a tire in/out easier. Something to think about though.

Looks like the tire would fit well if I angle it slightly, I could keep the spare driveshaft/CVs underneath, right up against the cab? A box in front of the tire, CO2 in the corner... just makes locating more than one jerry can difficult.

 

Well, I'm not talking form experience, but my plan (chevy 63s/creeper joints/6" shackles) was going to be mounting the shocks in a / \ and slightly angled back. The drawback to this is that the more the shock is not aligned with the movement of the axles, the less efficient the shock is in doing it's job. But I didn't want to go through the bed beacuse I wanted to keep the bedspace functional and I don't hink it's necessary...

The reason being is that I really wanted a ton of droop with the set-up and not too much up-travel. The chevy springs don't like going too negative anyway (because this happens

so I was going to have very large bumpstops that stopped the springs at a slightly neg arch and then as fit as large shocks as I could to maximize droop. (Was thinking 12" shocks but maybe more... I would have to cycle the suspension first to know for sure) And then, with the large bumpstops, i would just change the angle of the shocks to get as straightupand down as I could. They probably wouldn't have to be angled too far back at all.

That's what I wold do... But you're going to have get the chevies on the truck before making any important decision about shock location/travel length I think.

If the chevies were able to withstand more negative arch, than going through the bed might be a good idea imo....but that unfortunately, that is one of they're weaknesses, so I don't think that's necessary. It's just a bummer that we wouldn't get much up-travel with that set-up.... :\

oh. and I like your haircut!!! hahaha (i wish i could grow a gnarly stash!! lol) Me....

 

Well if you really want to get all fancy why not get a compressor instead of a tank? Then you can just mount it under the hood instead of taking up bed space.

 

Yeah, good point. I should get the chevys on before I figure out shock relocation. From the looks of it, if those overloads (or whatever) weren't shaped the way they are or stiff as the are, they probably wouldn't deform the leaf pack like that.

Haha, I've been that way since HS. I had an epic goatee but the ladies don't seem to be fans.

That's certainly an option. Knowing me though, I'll probably end up with both

 

Do you plan on going with shocks as big as Jberry's? If not you could go with a smaller bed cage for the shocks and mount the spare on top of it all. You'd still have a functioning rear view mirror too

OR you could go the route I'm thinking of going and integrate a tire gate into your rear bumper. This way you still have bed space as well even if you put your tool box back in.

 

Sure, why not?

Thought about it. Guess I'm not really a fan of it except on expo rigs crammed with shit haha

 

^^THIS!

really the CBI tire carrier isn't affecting your COG as much as you think. I think you should keep it..

the /\ shocks i agree with angling them back a bit as well, but like Silas said, gotta watch the angle other wise they kinda stop working really ha

this is NO air compressor in the world of Offroading that can compare to CO2 when filling tires...especially 40s lol

 

Yeah, he cut those overloads in half on one side... he really should taken both overloads out. But he has gone through 4 or 5 sets of chevy leaf packs because he's not running a large enough bumpstop and he let's them flex way too negative.... Just trying to say that the chevies do not survive well when allowed to flex very negative.

hahahahahahahahahaha GOOD LUCK. Isn't that more LT/trophy truck status?

a linked 1/4 elliptical would be sick....

 

My little ARB compressor fills one of my 35s from 15psi to 35psi about 1-2 minutes.... If I don't watch it, it'll get to 45 in no time! And they make even bigger ARB compressors than the one I have. Can you run air tools off of CO2? I honestly don't know...

 

Dang.... I've have to check it out!! Don't think I've ever seen a buggy with a catilever set-up...

 

Yes

 

hell ya you can. You saw Jerry run his impact off his tank.

CO2 on a 35 would be like 30-40 seconds on a 35'' i think.

 

But unlike the ARB compressor you have to worry about putting more CO2 in your tank every so often.

 

i can fill my 33's from 12psi to 35psi in 18 seconds each

I have to fill my #20 tank once a year and i run impacts, die grinders, drills just about every time I'm out wheeling and filling a few guys tires that I'm wheeling with. IMO C02 is way better then a OBA compressor for filling up tires and running air tools and it's cheap to fill. I pay $16.00 once a year and at 2 years of having C02 I'm still at half the cost of what a OBA system would cost.

 

Oh dang, I didn't realize he was running it off CO2! I shoulda looked at his set-up better....

yup.......

 

Dangit.... lol

Screw you, Jerry.