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Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by surfwax, Jul 20, 2017.

  1. Jul 20, 2017 at 11:01 PM
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    surfwax

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  2. Jul 20, 2017 at 11:15 PM
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    daryl lict

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    $open diffs for life$
    i dont think this exists...
     
  3. Jul 21, 2017 at 12:00 AM
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    Wyoming09

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    Define a crazy amount of money ??

    To me that is anything over $10,000.00

    When you trying to do that it most often tends to go the other way.

    If you get lucky you might find one already done being parted out you could buy reasonable.

    If your going to do a SAS do it the right
     
  4. Jul 21, 2017 at 12:04 AM
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    computeruser6

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    Define "walk-through." How much do you know about chassis and suspension design?
     
  5. Jul 21, 2017 at 12:15 AM
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    Wyoming09

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    If they need to ask??

    Most likely very little!!!
     
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  6. Jul 21, 2017 at 12:21 AM
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  7. Jul 21, 2017 at 12:22 AM
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    Vang Toua Moua

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    Research, collect parts, research, and plan things out. The sas is an extensive project. Your going to have to cut apart your frame. Only cheapest part is having the ability to do it yourself and that means a crazy buttload of equipment.
     
  8. Jul 21, 2017 at 6:22 AM
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    otis24

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    If you want budget you might be better off selling your current truck and finding a truck that's already been SAS'd.

    Just my own curiosity...why do you want to do an SAS? Can you tell us more about your current truck?
     
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  9. Jul 21, 2017 at 7:06 AM
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    ThunderOne

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    leaf spring SAS using toyota axle is going to be cheapest I would guess, since you don't do anything with the rear.
     
  10. Jul 21, 2017 at 9:54 AM
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    malburg114

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    It's not cheap or easy... But worth it in the end if you are actually going to use it. My suggestion is to read builds on here, pirste, and even ttora. Kind of hard on pirate and ttora though with the photo bucket thing. I would consider mine a "budget" sas and it was still expensive but I sprung for some better stuff. Shoot me a pm or comment on my build if you have more questions.
     
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  11. Jul 21, 2017 at 11:10 AM
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    Step 1: Determine how much you're really willing to spend on the "upgrade".
    Step 2: Research, what type of SAS (there are options) will meet the capabilities you're going for. In other words, figure out what SAS design fits your performance goals. Look through other builds, designs, ask question, etc.
    Setp 3: More research, determine if what you want will fit in your budget set in step 1. Lookup parts, materials, tools, labor (If you're asking these questions I assume you will have to pay someone to do some of the work if not all) and add 20% or more to cover things you overlooked and unexpected costs.
    Step 4: Save up until you can build what you really want. On a side note this could also give you time to learn how to do some of the work yourself.
    Step 5: To build or don't build... ultimately it is up to you to decide if you can afford the risk of dumping money into a truck that you might just destroy in the process.
     
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  12. Jul 23, 2017 at 8:27 AM
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    tacoma_2002

    tacoma_2002 Where We're Going We Don't Need Roads...

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    I'm currently in the middle of mine now. I've been accumulating parts over the last few years when I could find them cheap. My specs and final cost is as follows. I'm doing all the work myself and this is not counting consumable materials or the scrap steel plate I have laying around the shop to build frame plates, etc.

    2002 Toyota Tacoma 3link with Coilovers

    TG Rock Assault housing
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    FROR Tacoma Brakes (using my old calipers, pads, rotors)
    FROR Extended Brake lines
    TG Knuckle Build
    4.10 stock 4cyl 3rd/welded
    Chassis Unlimited link brackets, coilover towers etc (most effective way to go...not worth time to cut them yourself)
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    Made my own frame plates
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    Making my own steering shaft
    FROR firewall plate
    Ruff Stuff 1.25" chromo heims (links)
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    Ruff Stuff heim steering kit
    TG Hi Steer Arms (second hand)
    39.5" Irok Bias
    reusing my current rims
    Toyota Genuine parts for all Oil Pan parts
    Hydro Supply ram, lines, fittings for hydro assist
    Stock Toyota AISIN hubs (second hand)
    IFS mini truck wheel hubs for Tacoma brake conversion (second hand)
    LROR triple drilled flange
    Dave's offroad Long Spline driveshaft kit
    You need to budget ATF (for power steering), Brake fluid, Antifreeze and an oil change during the swap because you'll be draining all those fluids anyway

    Rough total thus far (keep in mind I'm not done yet..)
    $6,500+/-

    You CAN use a Waggy D44 with stock axles etc and come out cheaper. I personally believe the Toyota closed knuckle design offers more strength and easier parts sourcing when on the trails. If you decide you need a Waggy 44 I have a ton of parts and a housing that I will sell. I started going that route and changed direction last minute.

    Hope this helps.
     
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  13. Jul 23, 2017 at 9:18 AM
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    slander

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    I did mine for around 5k, however I got alot of parts for free. Look around and don't be scared to use used parts and do 100% of the work yourself.

    The most expensive parts for me was gears, steering, and the rcvs.

    Why do you want an SAS? I wheeled since 2008 ifs, 33s, with dual cases and dollar for dollar duals are a far better mod for off-road performance. I did the SAS because I wanted a front locker, bigger tires and my IFS was at the end of it's life.
     
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  14. Jul 27, 2017 at 11:04 PM
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    This is what I was wanting, thanks. How far along are you, any photos?
     
  15. Jul 27, 2017 at 11:12 PM
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    surfwax

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    I'm not sure I want a sas, I'm interested in the different options. P.S. I'm starting out off roading and I want the best long term option. SAS looks cooler :) and I know it performs better. Would a basic 3 inch lift be the best to start off with and learn with?
     
  16. Jul 27, 2017 at 11:27 PM
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    daryl lict

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    $open diffs for life$
    Unless you've got tons of money you're willing to throw at it right now I would do 5100s and dakars. That being said even a 3 inch lift is over a thousand bucks to do, just depends on what you wanna do.
     
  17. Jul 27, 2017 at 11:28 PM
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    eon_blue

    eon_blue If I would, could you

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    Starts by wanting to SAS then lands on a "basic 3 inch lift"....you have much to learn young padawan. Its all good we all start somewhere.

    Yes a 3" lift is a good place to start out if you decide to go in that direction...just be sure you look into suspension lifts, stay away from block/spacer/body lifts. They're much cheaper and for good reason, they ride like crap and they aren't safe for offroading at that height. A decent 3" front/rear suspension lift will likely cost you about $1000 minimum if you include new UCAs, which you probably should if you want a true 3" of lift. A good performance coilover 3" lift will run upwards of $2k+.
     
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  18. Jul 28, 2017 at 6:24 AM
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    Usual process for a cheap diy sas.
    1. Read, everything for about a year.
    2. Spend a few years gathering parts. It takes time to do find free or cheap what otherwise costs a lot of money.
    3. Sell truck because it no longer fits your needs.
    4. Take parts to scrap yard or sell craibslist.
     
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  19. Jul 28, 2017 at 6:49 AM
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    tacoma_2002 Where We're Going We Don't Need Roads...

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    I have a build thread on IH8MUD. I'm keeping the build thread a bit behind this way if I hit a snag the thread isn't dead for a month...

    I have the steering almost completely finished (waiting on a few firewall steering shaft seal from Toyota) and I'm currently hanging link brackets on the frame end.
     
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  20. Jul 28, 2017 at 4:07 PM
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    surfwax

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    Awesome build thread
     

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