1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

5100 ALignment Question

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by southerntaco889, Oct 25, 2010.

  1. Oct 25, 2010 at 4:30 PM
    #1
    southerntaco889

    southerntaco889 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Member:
    #38856
    Messages:
    212
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Chris
    Bartow, GA
    Vehicle:
    07 PreRunner DC TRD Sport
    5100's @ 2.5/285 BFG A/T's/blacked-red badges/strobes/siren/PA/roof rack soon to come/brush guard soon to come
    Ok so I got my 5100's from DSM today. A whole day ahead of schedule! +1 for great service to them. But anyway. Due to my work schedule its gonna be really hard to install the shocks, wheels and tires and get it aligned all in one day. And also my rims and tires don't come in till friday. So here's the question. Would it be a good idea to go ahead and install the shocks at 2.5 like I want and get it aligned with the stock wheel/tire combo then come back with the 285's and new rims over the weekend or will the 285's not align at all like the 265's? Thanks for any input in advance. Ya'll have been really helpful so far!
     
  2. Oct 25, 2010 at 4:33 PM
    #2
    jandrews

    jandrews Carolina Alliance Southwest Region Ambassador

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2009
    Member:
    #18122
    Messages:
    12,180
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    '09 FourDubDee TRD OR
    A-TRUCK, Fat Kid in the Bed, Custom Pinstriping, Ported and Polished Muffler Bearing, Hi-Performance Bed Mat
    Wheel size affects alignment. Get everything on, then align.
     
  3. Oct 25, 2010 at 4:40 PM
    #3
    southerntaco889

    southerntaco889 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Member:
    #38856
    Messages:
    212
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Chris
    Bartow, GA
    Vehicle:
    07 PreRunner DC TRD Sport
    5100's @ 2.5/285 BFG A/T's/blacked-red badges/strobes/siren/PA/roof rack soon to come/brush guard soon to come
    Dangit....ok well how bout this. Its hard to explain why im going to have to do the lift and tires separate. But how bout i put the 5100's on with the stock tires and kinda do a frontyard alignment which i've done before with a few of my friends on a mud truck that it didn't really matter on. Would that be ok to ride on for a few days, no more than 5, until I can take it to get aligned with the new rims/tires on it?
     
  4. Oct 25, 2010 at 4:49 PM
    #4
    jandrews

    jandrews Carolina Alliance Southwest Region Ambassador

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2009
    Member:
    #18122
    Messages:
    12,180
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    '09 FourDubDee TRD OR
    A-TRUCK, Fat Kid in the Bed, Custom Pinstriping, Ported and Polished Muffler Bearing, Hi-Performance Bed Mat

    What's "ok" depends on how much you're willing to risk. Will you die? Probably not. Could you chew your tires to shit in a few days? Yeah.

    Nobody you can borrow a beater from for a few days?
     
  5. Oct 25, 2010 at 5:20 PM
    #5
    southerntaco889

    southerntaco889 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Member:
    #38856
    Messages:
    212
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Chris
    Bartow, GA
    Vehicle:
    07 PreRunner DC TRD Sport
    5100's @ 2.5/285 BFG A/T's/blacked-red badges/strobes/siren/PA/roof rack soon to come/brush guard soon to come
    Nope, not unless I wanna borrow my buddy's 85 K5 Blazer thats sittin on 44's and gets about 3 miles to the gallon lol. This was the rig that the aforementioned frontyard alignment was done on. With the miles I drive everyday I figure it would cost me about $150 in gas and half the tread on his boggers for 3 or 4 days worth of drivin lol. I can get the toe really close its just camber that I can't get perfect in the yard. I mean the tires on it now are shot anyway so its not like im losin anything
     
  6. Oct 25, 2010 at 5:38 PM
    #6
    Fabulous

    Fabulous Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2009
    Member:
    #19807
    Messages:
    831
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Fabian
    Calgary, AB
    Vehicle:
    2006 Tacoma double-cab TRD Sport
    Homertaco grill, Light Racing UCA's, 2.8" front lift (5100's at 0.85 setting and Eibach springs) 2" AAL with rear 5100's, Wet Okole seat covers fr/ bk. 17 x 9 Incubus Crusher wheels w/ 4.5" backspacing. 30% tinted front windows.
    I think getting the 5100's installed, and then getting an alignment right afterwards is a bad idea. After I installed mine the truck sat at about 3.5" higher then stock for like two days before it settled to 2.6". You won't get a proper alignment that way. I say install, and wait for it to settle, then throw on the new wheels/ tires, then get it aligned. Just my $0.02.
     
  7. Oct 25, 2010 at 5:38 PM
    #7
    jandrews

    jandrews Carolina Alliance Southwest Region Ambassador

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2009
    Member:
    #18122
    Messages:
    12,180
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    '09 FourDubDee TRD OR
    A-TRUCK, Fat Kid in the Bed, Custom Pinstriping, Ported and Polished Muffler Bearing, Hi-Performance Bed Mat
    If the tires are shot, then who cares? Drive around with the alignment fucked up until you go to get your new tires put on. Just be sure you can handle the vehicle safely.
     
  8. Oct 25, 2010 at 5:50 PM
    #8
    southerntaco889

    southerntaco889 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Member:
    #38856
    Messages:
    212
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Chris
    Bartow, GA
    Vehicle:
    07 PreRunner DC TRD Sport
    5100's @ 2.5/285 BFG A/T's/blacked-red badges/strobes/siren/PA/roof rack soon to come/brush guard soon to come
    Good point about the settling. Didn't think about that. I just didn't want to be ridin crooked on my brand new rubber. I don't wanna get em wore all wopsided before they get aligned so I may give it a good yard alignment then get it done proffesionally again in a few days. Also I'm puttin on some 16x8 XD Hoss with 4.5" BS. Do ya'll think im gonna have trouble with the studs being too short? I've hit a couple threads on here where ppl had that problem.
     
  9. Oct 25, 2010 at 5:51 PM
    #9
    Brunes

    Brunes abides.

    Joined:
    May 31, 2008
    Member:
    #7011
    Messages:
    17,641
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rotorhead
    DC or New Jersey - Depends on the day....
    Vehicle:
    08 Red/Graphite and Satin Black
    Inside: Tint, Wet Okole 1/2 Piped Red/Black Covers, Black Weathertech Digital Fit Mats, URD Short Throw w/ TWM Weighted Knob, USA Spec iPod adapter. Outside: 4300K Retro w/ Angel Eyes and Red Shrouds, 5000K Blazer Fog Light Retrofit, Debadge, Bed Locking Handle, Satin Black Rims Performance: TRD/Steigmeier Blower w/ 2.7 Pulley. 668 Injectors and 320 LPH AEM Fuel pump. URD UCON and 7th Injector. DTLT Headers, URD Y-Pipe, Wicked Flow Muffler. Suspension: Both: OME Shocks Front: 886X's and TC UCAs Rear: Dakars Armor: Relentless Front Bumper Relentless High Clearance Rear w/ Tire/Rotopax Swing Out Relentless Front, Mid, and TCase skids BAMF Diff Skid Recovery and Spares: Fullsize Spare Tire 2x2 gal Rotopax 1x1 gal Rotopax 1x1 gal Water Rotopax Warn 9.5XP-S Winch Hi-Lift Extreme 60" Ironman Off-Road Recovery Kit
    Get the firestone lifetime alingment- And then you can get it aligned as many times as you want...
     
  10. Oct 25, 2010 at 9:05 PM
    #10
    ccextra1976

    ccextra1976 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2010
    Member:
    #43602
    Messages:
    60
    Gender:
    Male
    Utah
    Vehicle:
    2011 timberland mica DC 4x4 off road
    ok now i am concerned, did billy's at 1.75...two days later got alignment...then had rims/tires installed today. I went from 265/70-16 to 265/75-16. Should i be concerned and get another alignment for a minor change in tire size?
     
  11. Oct 26, 2010 at 2:27 AM
    #11
    southerntaco889

    southerntaco889 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Member:
    #38856
    Messages:
    212
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Chris
    Bartow, GA
    Vehicle:
    07 PreRunner DC TRD Sport
    5100's @ 2.5/285 BFG A/T's/blacked-red badges/strobes/siren/PA/roof rack soon to come/brush guard soon to come
    I thought I'd heard some people on here say that the Firestone alignment sucked?
     
  12. Oct 26, 2010 at 2:30 AM
    #12
    ph16drive

    ph16drive \m/.....\m/

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2008
    Member:
    #4360
    Messages:
    559
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Paul
    Clevelandish
    Vehicle:
    08 DC, V6, 4x4, 5-Speed Auto
    Shorty antenna, Pop-&-Lock tailgate lock, Undercover bed cover, Aeroforce Interceptor gauge (custom mount), bed mat, AFE Pro Dry S air filter, map light mod, suspension TSB, Billy 5100's all around, Eibach springs, custom fuel tank armor plate, custom cat armor plate, painted front brake calipers, Grillcraft MX upper grill & Hella 500s, ipod adapter, dash pushbutton garage door opener, aux reverse lights, custom ipod nano 4G mount, seatbelt chime mod, custom bull bar w/ (3) Lightforce 140 Lance lights, POR-15 Chassis Coat Black drivetrain, illum 4x4 switch, xtra bed D-rings mod, locker anytime mod, diff breather relocation mod, ABS disable switch mod, Heated seats
    x2
    I got the same advice from the place who'll be doing my alignment. Let the suspension settle for a week and then do tires and alignment.:D
     
  13. Oct 26, 2010 at 3:47 AM
    #13
    Brunes

    Brunes abides.

    Joined:
    May 31, 2008
    Member:
    #7011
    Messages:
    17,641
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rotorhead
    DC or New Jersey - Depends on the day....
    Vehicle:
    08 Red/Graphite and Satin Black
    Inside: Tint, Wet Okole 1/2 Piped Red/Black Covers, Black Weathertech Digital Fit Mats, URD Short Throw w/ TWM Weighted Knob, USA Spec iPod adapter. Outside: 4300K Retro w/ Angel Eyes and Red Shrouds, 5000K Blazer Fog Light Retrofit, Debadge, Bed Locking Handle, Satin Black Rims Performance: TRD/Steigmeier Blower w/ 2.7 Pulley. 668 Injectors and 320 LPH AEM Fuel pump. URD UCON and 7th Injector. DTLT Headers, URD Y-Pipe, Wicked Flow Muffler. Suspension: Both: OME Shocks Front: 886X's and TC UCAs Rear: Dakars Armor: Relentless Front Bumper Relentless High Clearance Rear w/ Tire/Rotopax Swing Out Relentless Front, Mid, and TCase skids BAMF Diff Skid Recovery and Spares: Fullsize Spare Tire 2x2 gal Rotopax 1x1 gal Rotopax 1x1 gal Water Rotopax Warn 9.5XP-S Winch Hi-Lift Extreme 60" Ironman Off-Road Recovery Kit
    They might give you a ahrd time about the truck being lifted- so ask them if that'll be a problem before you pay for it.

    But an alignment is an alignment. Once they bring the truck into spec and it tracks straight- There isn't much more you can do unless you are trying to race tune suspension. If you are going fr the race tune- I wouldn't use Firestone...but they have done fine by me.
     
  14. Oct 26, 2010 at 8:27 AM
    #14
    Fabulous

    Fabulous Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2009
    Member:
    #19807
    Messages:
    831
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Fabian
    Calgary, AB
    Vehicle:
    2006 Tacoma double-cab TRD Sport
    Homertaco grill, Light Racing UCA's, 2.8" front lift (5100's at 0.85 setting and Eibach springs) 2" AAL with rear 5100's, Wet Okole seat covers fr/ bk. 17 x 9 Incubus Crusher wheels w/ 4.5" backspacing. 30% tinted front windows.
    I don't think there would be any way my truck would have aligned if it were at 3.5" higher in the front then stock. I'm pretty sure if you got it aligned, and then it settled the specs would be off if you went back later. Going the Firestone route would be okay, but we don't get those offered here in Canada. Hell, my one alignment cost me $150...
     
  15. Oct 26, 2010 at 9:57 AM
    #15
    korny351

    korny351 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2009
    Member:
    #26491
    Messages:
    58
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    John
    Stockton, CA
    Vehicle:
    07 DCLB SR5 4X4
    I wouldn't go the Firestone route. Tried that many years ago on another vehicle. Got the initial alignment and all was ok. Went back less than a year later and they said they couldn't align it because of a bent control arm or something. No accidents, potholes or major railroad tracks. Nothing that would have bent anything. They just didn't want to follow through. Next time I went to change the front pads it took a 6 foot cheater pipe on a T-wrench to loosen the lugs. Won't deal with Firestone anymore.
     
  16. Oct 26, 2010 at 11:09 AM
    #16
    southerntaco889

    southerntaco889 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Member:
    #38856
    Messages:
    212
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Chris
    Bartow, GA
    Vehicle:
    07 PreRunner DC TRD Sport
    5100's @ 2.5/285 BFG A/T's/blacked-red badges/strobes/siren/PA/roof rack soon to come/brush guard soon to come
    I'll see about using them its just the closest one to me is 60 miles away. We have a tire shop in the next town over thats done my alignments before and always done a good job so its probably goin to him. My concern is if i put everything on at once and yard align it how bad will it wear my shiny new bfg's in lets say a week or so? probably put 150 to 200 miles on em. I mean if the camber and toe is close it shouldn't be bad should it? BTW my tires are comin tomorow so i may be able to put everything on tomorow night or thursday
     
  17. Oct 26, 2010 at 11:17 AM
    #17
    southerntaco889

    southerntaco889 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Member:
    #38856
    Messages:
    212
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Chris
    Bartow, GA
    Vehicle:
    07 PreRunner DC TRD Sport
    5100's @ 2.5/285 BFG A/T's/blacked-red badges/strobes/siren/PA/roof rack soon to come/brush guard soon to come
    And bump for one of my previous questions. What about my studs possibly being too short? Any input?
     
To Top