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5100's @.85" or 5100's @ 0" & Eibach Coils??

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas' started by cverneau, Dec 17, 2012.

  1. Dec 17, 2012 at 6:27 AM
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    I've been here a while and read all of the threads with regards to leveling the front. I'm just looking for opinions as I still can't decide which way to go - I've got a stock 2011 AC 4x4 4 cyl. automatic.

    5100's set at 0.85 with stock coils = 0.85" lift

    or

    5100's set at 0 with Eibach coils = 1.6" lift

    Are 5100's set at 0 with OME 883'S OR 884'S also an option, and if so, what height would they give??

    I did have the rear TSB done about a year ago.

    Here's where I can't decide - I do sometimes use the truck as a truck. I do load it up at Home Depot and haul firewood a few times a year. I like the stance now with the ass end up (a little too much, though) due to it just about leveling out when it's loaded, however I don't mind the front end being higher when hauling as it's only done a few times a year.
    This is my daily driver and I do not off-road.

    Will the eibach's settle somewhat from the original 1.6" of lift??
    Does pre-loading the stock coils to 0.85 give a fairly harsh ride??

    I DO NOT want to level the truck. I would like to get close to level, but I do want to keep the ass end higher than the front.

    So....how is the ride using stock springs at 0.85 compared to Eibach at 0?? OME 883'S or 884's??

    Some opinions and pictures would be great...
     
  2. Dec 17, 2012 at 6:33 AM
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    I was in your same position a little while ago. I went with Eibach's and the 5100's set at zero. Very happy I didn't go with anything less. With the TSB in the rear my rear now sits maybe a hair less than 1/2" higher than my front. Looks almost level. Check my build page by clicking my sig below. Otherwise here are a couple pics...

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    The ride is more solid or firm, but I wouldn't really say it is stiff at all. Couldn't be happier really. Let me know if you have any other specific questions about it.
     
  3. Dec 17, 2012 at 6:37 AM
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    How much lift are you actually trying to get?

    Since you have a 4 cylinder, the amount of lift and the end result of the lift will be different. With Eibach coils, the 1.6" of lift was on a V6 double cab 4x4, you will get more lift than that. I would avoid Eibach coils on a 4 banger unless you like a rough ride. They are a stiff coil, even on the V6 (I have them myself).

    You certainly can use OME 883 or 884 coils. On a V6, they give you about 1.5 and 2" of lift respectively, on a 4 cylinder, add a little more. I'm not sure how much additional lift you'll get with the lighter front end, maybe someone with that lift will chime in.

    With 5100's set at .85, the ride will firm up slightly but it will not be bad at all. If you start preloading up to 2.5", that's when you'll start noticing a rough ride and even some people say it's not bad. I would caution you with preloading TRD Off Road coils, they are progressive and get stiff in a hurry when preloaded. The SR5 and TRD Sport coils are linear and take the preloading better.
     
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    Pugga's right, with your set up (4 cyl access) I would expect a little more height in the front than me. Doubt you would have much rake if any with the Eibach's. My only issue with the 0.85 lift was whether or not I would regret not having lifted it more once I went that route.
     
  5. Dec 17, 2012 at 6:45 AM
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    Looking for the same set up with a very good, close to stock ride.
     
  6. Dec 17, 2012 at 6:50 AM
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    With a 4x4 base model, what coils do I have - linear or progressive??

    I notice yours is a double cab, where mine's an AC. I have to assume yours is a heavier front end to compress more.
     
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    You have linear coils. Only the TRD Off Road has the progressive coils.
     
  8. Dec 17, 2012 at 6:56 AM
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    I've been leaning towards compressing the stock to the 0.85 setting as it would give a little bit of lift while retaining the ass-high look when hauling stuff. Add to that the additional benefit of minimal messing with the CV angles, and this seems better in the long run. I'm not looking for any specific height, I just want to make it so the ass doesn't look totally jacked as it has since the TSB was done.
     
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    Mine is set at .85 with the Eibach coils and still sits a little ass high with the TSB add a leaf. Mine is a double cab so it is heavier and the rear had settled a little over time. I have had the lift on just over a year.
     
  10. Dec 17, 2012 at 7:07 AM
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    I also just realized I wouldn't need the driver side spacer for the lean by compressing the stock coils (as long as I don't mix them up when installing). I think this setup with the addition of 265/75R16 tires (as opposed to the 245's currently on it) would be a decent stance.

    I'll wait and see what others have to say here....
     
  11. Dec 17, 2012 at 7:19 AM
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    The shock is adjustable not the spring so you would still need the spacer on the driver side for the lean. Unless you go with an adjustable coil over then you would adjust the top of the spring with a spanner wrench.
     
  12. Dec 17, 2012 at 7:21 AM
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    I thought the stock springs were different lengths (driver side longer than passenger) to make up for this already?? At least that's what I've read on her before...
     
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    He was correct the way he stated it, you don't need the lean spacer when using stock coils...
     
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    ^^^
    Are you saying 2011's don't have factory lean?
     
  15. Dec 17, 2012 at 7:31 AM
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    No, all the Tacomas seem to lean a little bit. But, when you use aftermarket coils that aren't side specific, the lean gets exaggerated and you need to use a spacer on the driver's side to compensate. When you preload the stock coils, the coils are still kept on the correct side so at the worst, you'll retain whatever factory lean you had to begin with but it won't get worse as it can with aftermarket coils.
     
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    Gotcha
     
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    Yeah I missed the stock part.:eek:
     
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    I'd go with the 5100's @ .85 and leave the stock coils.
     
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    Anyone else gonna chime in??
    Anyone with 883's on 5100's??
    Bueller...Bueller....
     
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    I would tend to agree with this if you only want a slight lift, don't plan on lifting the rear and still want a little rake. I think the other options will give you more lift in the front than you're looking for.
     
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