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5100's w/Toytec Adjustable Collar Questions

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Dusty T., Dec 9, 2013.

  1. Dec 9, 2013 at 10:36 PM
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    Dusty T.

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    I searched all over and found very little info on the 5100's with adjustable collar kit by Toytec. If there are similar discussions on this, please feel free to post them! Thanks in advance for the help and patience as this is my first lift install :eek:

    I just installed the Toytec P/N TTAFCS-CK95 adjustable collar/Eibach spring kit and am not confident I have these set up properly. I've been speaking with Toytec on this, and it seems that they are, however, not sure I'll get the 2-2.5" of lift as expected.

    Measurements as follows......
    Stock springs, pre-lift: Both sides were 20.75" center of hub to fender flare.
    5100's with adjustable collars and Eibach 600 LB springs: Both sides are now 22.5"

    I currently have the adjustment collar showing about 2" of thread on the passenger side, and 2.25" on the driver's side, giving about 1.75" of lift. No spacers- just the stock top plate and rubber isolator.

    The first three pictures show the springs pre-install with little to no preload on them. I can actually turn the shock by hand. Note I have about 1.25" of thread showing already, and the collar set to the lowest of three c-clip settings on the 5100's (per Toytec instructions).

    The remaining pics show the coilovers installed, with about 2.25" of thread shown on the driver's side, and I'm getting barely 2" of lift at this point. Now the questions....

    1. Does any of this this look right? I can't figure out why the collars need to be cranked up so high, and why Toytec insists on the collar resting on the lowest c-clip setting. The instructions were written for the '05 and up. Toytec says the same setup applies to my fist generation '02 Tacoma.

    2. It is nearly impossible to spin the adjusting nut with the spanner wrenches with so little clearance between the strut, frame, and control arms. I've been turning the bottom sleeve while holding the adjusting nut in place. This is probably not so great for the c-clip, is there any trick to this?

    3. Should I be running a top plate spacer with this kit? Hopefully not since I could barely get these struts in as-is.

    Thanks again for the help.

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  2. Dec 16, 2013 at 9:00 PM
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    Nevermind, think I got my question answered by Toytec. Made some adjustments over the weekend, and turns out that the location of the adjustment collar was in the proper place, and only a couple turns provided more lift then when they were lower. Guess there is now enough pre-load on the springs to provide greater lift with fewer turns if that makes sense. Toytec did mention that I could raise the collar to the middle or top c-clip if I wanted to, however, you would run the risk of going over the recommended 3" of lift. Overall, very pleased with the setup. The 600# spring rate is about perfect being more stiff and responsive.
     
  3. Jan 18, 2014 at 2:04 PM
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    Hey I jus came across this post and like you mentioned, there's very little info about this kit. What is your overall impression of it so far? And how much lift are you running at this point?
    I've been contemplating this kit due to already having the 5100/eibach setup up front, but get more lift than I'd prefer. I've also considered trading in my eibachs for ome 881's, but figured the coilover kit would be more of an upgrade.
     
  4. Jan 18, 2014 at 11:20 PM
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    I'm not sure whether you can buy the collars by themselves and use your existing Eibach springs. That would be a question to for Toytec. It's possible that the springs they sell for the 5100's may be a different length than the ones for the collar kit that I went with. Not sure where you have the c-clip positioned on your shocks, but perhaps it can be moved down a notch? I considered going the route of just the Bilsteins and springs, or OME, but really like being to fine tune the height of the front between 1 and 3 inches of lift.

    I kept the overall lift at about 2" so I wouldn't need to upgrade to long travel upper control arms, and keep the CV boots from rubbing. It seems to be the sweet spot for getting a little extra clearance and avoiding a chain of issues. Maybe it's just an illusion, but most of the OME setups I saw that had 881 and 882 springs with OME Dakar leafs seemed to either sit level, or have a slight "bro" lean. I wanted to have some rake when unloaded and the adjusting collar also allows me to lower the front as the rear leaf springs settle over time.

    I looked at going with the BOSS or ICONs at first, but considered the cost and availability of replacement shocks. For my needs and budget, that's where the 5100's really shined.
     
  5. Jan 19, 2014 at 12:39 PM
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    Thanks for the input. I actually called toytec and found out that I would need the different eibachs since they are flat topped, compared to the non adjustable ones that I currently have. Kinda sucks cuz that means I'd have to spend another $400 just for adjustability. As for my bilsteins, they're already on the lowest setting so no further adjustment available.

    I really do like the fact that you do have that range of lift and can choose the amount based on added weight (bumper, winch, etc.). I would love to run right at 2.5" or 2" to avoid any cv rub (my main issue), and also to keep alignment in decent spec.

    I appreciate the input. Out of curiosity, did you but this adjustable setup initially, or did you originally have the non adjustable eibach/bilstein setup?
     
  6. Jan 19, 2014 at 9:35 PM
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    Huh, well there you go on the springs. That makes sense that they wouldn't be flush since they need to fit the collar that comes with the shocks, which isn't flat at all.

    This is my first go at putting a lift on anything. Researched Toytec's other coilover options like the BOSS coilover, Donahoes, and the 5100 setup with the three c-clip adjustments like the one you have. The one I went with seemed like the best option for my needs and budget.
     
  7. Jul 15, 2014 at 11:13 AM
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    to me this is not a bad way to go .. you can order the 5100's from someone for 315.99 or 319.99 shipped.. and then get the adjustable eibach springs and perch from toyotec for around 450.00 shipped and total otd shipped you are around 750.00 for coilovers up front with rear 5100's ... might can add about 60.00 shipped for an AAL and still be around 800.00 shipped for full kit with adjustable fronts :)
     

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