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5Lug coilovers

Discussion in 'Street Trucks' started by arcenik, Mar 29, 2018.

  1. Feb 3, 2020 at 7:46 PM
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    RyanTacoMC

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    Yes! I want to lower my truck as much as possible without frame notch and preferable no JDM (added expense if I'm upgrading my suspsension)... so 2/3 max. Coilovers seem to be ideal. But it looks like you got your drop with JDM and the coilovers are for,er, suspension only (I noticed you pre-loaded for height).

    So I am wondering if there are any drawbacks to just using Viking C208 10" Coilovers to drop the front 2"?
     
  2. Feb 3, 2020 at 8:13 PM
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    The only thing I can think of would be the alignment. You might not be able to get it in spec. Caster and toe should be fine but camber might be out.
     
  3. Feb 3, 2020 at 8:33 PM
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    Ok, so I've been wondering about this out-of-alignment stuff... so my understanding is that toe and camber should be as close to zero as possible. Caster seems to be something of a "preference" thing (3-5). So if camber is out of alignment, and I guess, how much out of alignment, what does that mean? Is this pulling to a side? Is this pre-mature tire wear? My rough understanding is that I can lower my Taco 2" and it "is fine." No?
     
  4. Feb 3, 2020 at 9:10 PM
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    you might see a slight increase in tire wear with the negative camber, but as long as your toe is in spec you should be fine. It actually handles a little bit better with the additional camber.
     
  5. Feb 3, 2020 at 9:40 PM
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    Try and let us know
     
  6. Feb 5, 2020 at 11:54 AM
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    RyanTacoMC,
    You’re not going to be able to go more then 1.5” of drop in the front and be able to get the alignment within specs! Ask me how I know.
    Any lower you will need UCA/upper control arms like these in the link below.

    https://djmsuspension.com/product/ca2806u/


    Any lower then approx. 2” you need LCA/lower control arms too. (rumor has it)

    https://djmsuspension.com/product/ca2806-3/

    Plus you need to press in ball joints too.

    Good luck.
     
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  7. Feb 5, 2020 at 6:41 PM
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    Ok, so, how FAR out of spec? Did you get a number printout thing with an alignment? If, yes, could you post? Thanks.
     
  8. Feb 5, 2020 at 7:21 PM
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    Do you have an xrunner?
     
  9. Feb 5, 2020 at 7:25 PM
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    Base AC
     
  10. Feb 5, 2020 at 7:40 PM
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    Slick and dirty coilover adapter is on the way! Just trying to decide on coilover/spring length and coil firmness...
     
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  11. Feb 5, 2020 at 8:27 PM
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    Well if the xrunner is 1 inch lower than the base and you can get 1.5” drop and still be in spec I would say the base should be able to get a 2.5” drop into spec. So 2” should be no problem.
     
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    All I know is get the double adjustable Viking shocks they are way better than singles
     
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  13. Feb 5, 2020 at 9:32 PM
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    You will find out like I did. I was only able to get approximately 1.5” drop before the alignment was out of specs. I have 19” staggered wheels so no rotation front to rear.
    I have an 2015 SR-5 Extra cab and nothing wrong with single adjustable QA1’s if you have the proper spring rate. Plus the OP has almost no rear suspension travel with his rear suspension setup. I love to see a photo of the clearance between his frame and rear axle. I have 4x4 leafs and I only have about 3.5” of rear travel. I’ve been looking for someone to notch the frame properly. But right now I’m concentrating on finding someone who can install an LS w/ a manual trans. I can then sell the URD Supercharger system I purchased that’s still in the box in the garage. Have a friend that has an LS in a S10 and it’s kind of hard to turn your nose up at 350+hp & 29 mpg.
    :burnrubber:
     
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  14. Feb 5, 2020 at 10:26 PM
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    The double adjustable's will let you dial it in if you don't get the perfect spring rate. Which you probably won't on your first go. I am not sure what spring rate will be good for a 2tr as I have a 1gr.

    I can only give my input from experience. For the minimal price increase and added adjustability the double adjustable's should be a no brainer.

    I had a 1.75 drop before the DJM+coilovers and I was out of spec by .2 on the camber. spec is .6 to -1.0 and I was at -1.2. I would guess you would be right around -1.5 to -1.7, out of spec yes, deal breaker no. Make sure you take it to a good alignment shop.

    With the DJM+coilovers I keep the camber right at -.9, I want the most camber but in spec


    I also have 2 inch blocks, helper bags, and XII sway bars for the rear of my xrunner. It only has about 2" of travel but it rides really good and bottoms rarely.


    @Hayrider if you're ever Hawaii hit me up I can give you a ride.
     
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  16. Feb 6, 2020 at 7:30 PM
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    Wait, what? I had to look up you might be talking about. I'm jealous! I hate this site! Things to do: are there any engine swaps for my 2.7 RWD? :-(
     
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    Is there any way to use the coil over adapters and the adjustable coil overs to lift the truck?
     
  18. Feb 21, 2020 at 8:25 AM
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    Absolutely‼️ I’m about 1 1/4” from as low as you can go. *Edit* for every turn of the adjustment collar my front hight drops / raises 1/4” so look how much adjustment is left to go up. :eek: I only have about 4” of up travel with low profile low 5/8” bumpstops.
    Go back and read the beginning of this thread. The front is limited by the control arms & bumpstops.

    For the rear shocks you need to measure the shock mounts/brackets at full drop and compression! Just a note, if you add an AAL/Add-A-Leaf for more ride height doesn’t mean the rear leaf springs are longer at full drop. Do some reading/researching. It’s to bad they stopped building these below. Keep an eye open and maybe you can find a used set of Upper Control Arms. Good luck!

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/total-chaos-mid-travel-5-lug-feeler.231352/

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  19. Feb 22, 2020 at 7:05 PM
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    Even though I'm more into lowering, I found AccuTune's info helpful. This thread is more about DIYing it to save some money with QA1s or ViKings and your choice of springs (rather than AccuTune's Fox and Kings). Although, if you have the money...
     
  20. Feb 22, 2020 at 7:25 PM
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    Ok, so it seems like Slick and Dirty Motorsports might be out of business? On vaca? Ripping me off? I dunno. I placed an order on 2/3 and they received my order... but I haven't heard anything. I emailed and did the web contact form this week and heard nothing. So I opened an issue with paypal. Hopefully, it will be resolved. If NOT, I guess I'm going the local fab route...

    So, which design is better? Or what are the pros/cons. For reference: Design One / Design Two. Design two seems "lower." Are there mods I should make to either one? Should design one have 1/2" holes (like the OP drilled out)?

    Also, I was looking at new suspension for my wife's Celica, and there are coilovers with adjustable "camber" plates. People have said you can't use coilovers to lower my Tacoma more than 1 1/2" without issues, but if I moved the attachment hole over, wouldn't that fix that?

    Anyway, I'm a little bummed my adapter seems to be MIA and I've wasted 2+ weeks waiting...
     
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