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6 Speed Manual Comparison (2nd vs 3rd Gen)

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by VelociRaider, Aug 30, 2019.

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Which manual is preferable on road?

  1. Gen 2 6 MT

    1 vote(s)
    4.3%
  2. Gen 3 6 MT

    22 vote(s)
    95.7%
  1. Aug 30, 2019 at 3:50 AM
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    VelociRaider

    VelociRaider [OP] New Member

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    Has anyone gone from a 2nd Gen 6 Speed Manual to a 3rd Gen 6 Speed Manual and have any feedback/pros/cons that you could share? I am thinking of selling my ‘15 PreRunner automatic - but would like to know which manual feels better for a truck mostly used on road. Thanks!
     
  2. Aug 30, 2019 at 9:31 AM
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    shakerhood

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    I have had all 3 generations of Manual Tacoma's, the 3rd Gen's gearbox is buttery smooth compared to the previous ones. I would suggest test driving as the powerband is quite different from a 2nd Gen which you may or may not like.
     
  3. Aug 30, 2019 at 9:36 AM
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    StillNoPickles

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    Had over 200k on my 2nd gen 6 speed manual, and while it was great, my 3rd gen is much better. Has a better shift feel for sure, and it compliments the engine’s powerband much better than the 2nd gens IMO. I’m nearing 30k miles and will be switching out my transmission fluid soon, and I imagine it will only improve. Redline MT-90 or Ford Motorcraft XT-M5-QS for me. I did have a clunky clutch pedal assembly. Easy 5 minute fix lubing it up with synthetic brake grease.
     
  4. Aug 30, 2019 at 9:37 AM
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    coopcooper

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    I don't own either but I've driven enough mt 3rd and 2nd gens and man the 3rd gen mt makes the 2nd gen mt feel like a dump truck.
     
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  5. Aug 30, 2019 at 6:43 PM
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    VelociRaider

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    Thanks for the replies! My only experience with manual Tacoma’s is a 2009 5-speed 4 cyl (very fun to drive) and a short test drive with a 6 speed 2019. It sounds like the Gen 3 is the way to go over the Gen 2. Thanks - of course I welcome anyone else’s thoughts but I appreciate what you guys have already shared.
     
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  6. Sep 20, 2020 at 6:40 PM
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    Jdm4292

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    Thinking of upgrading my 6 speed 2009, is a 2020 a worth upgrade? I didn’t know the trans was a different model
     
  7. Sep 20, 2020 at 6:50 PM
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    shakerhood

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    Go take a test drive and see what you think, you can still get a MT on the Sport, Off Road, and Pro.
     
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  8. Sep 20, 2020 at 7:06 PM
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    the 3rd gen also responds super well to tuning while staying naturally aspirated. go to ~300hp without a blower, $700 instead of $7000 or whatever it is.
     
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  9. Sep 20, 2020 at 7:13 PM
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    FWIW I've learned on my 19 to keep on the gas as normal until about 1/3 of the way through the clutch pedal travel for a much smoother clutch engagement as you upshift. Sort of an intentional rev hang if you will. I'm sure it sounds weird and I'm more than prepared for the hate that may come my way for saying that but it works for me. Also make sure you ditch that clutch accumulator if that's not already on your radar.
     
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  10. Sep 20, 2020 at 7:17 PM
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    i do this. it changes everything, and you'll never get the torque hole under load at low rpm if you do. and depending on how you do it the power delivery can seriously come strong. for any MT i would personally vote for the ADM and OVT (the aforementioned tune). although i didn't stop there, it's a good place to stop the mods unless you like going nuts on your truck.
     
  11. Sep 20, 2020 at 7:54 PM
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    ive had 3 tacos all purchased new; all had the manual 6spd trans and short shifters equipped. my 08 xrunner with a coupe modded trd felt really good, but i really wouldnt expect nothing less coning from a sport truck. my 13 trd or had just a regular trd s/s and that one also felt alright nothing special. when it was stock you could really feel the slop in the shifts. the trd s/s really cleaned that up. my or had a lot of suspension work done to it and at one point it was lifted 9", so you really didnt see the true benefits of having a short shifter. my 19 sport probably the worst out of the bunch when it was stock. the throws is really long and feels like youre rowing a boat. i threw on a custom core short shifter as soon as i could and that changed the dynamic of this truck 1000%. it really is a night and day difference with a short shifter and weighted shift knob. i will say the 3rd gen manual trans is more "forgiving" in clutch play vs the 2nd gen. one thing you will have to address (via sprint booster or ovt) sooner than later is the throttle lag because thats pure garbage.
     
  12. Sep 20, 2020 at 8:21 PM
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    Never owned or drove a 2nd gen but I’ve always drove manual trucks and cars. I love the feel of the 2020 double cab trd off road 6 speed manual. Not a stiff clutch. Easy to drive. 6 speeds is great. And it has a botton you can press and start truck without pressing your clutch in neutral—So you don’t have to hop in and pop clutch to start it

     
  13. Sep 20, 2020 at 8:48 PM
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    OVT is way up there on my list. I'm gathering I'm like you in the sense that I can't leave well enough alone on literally any vehicle I've ever owned. I just haven't gotten around to it yet partially out of laziness and partially because if you don't know much about it it can be an intimidating process. On my old 07 Silverado there was a Mat-esque fellow who wrote custom tunes for each individual truck with the Diablo Intune programmers. Interestingly enough I noticed the biggest difference with that tune when I flashed it back to stock right before trading it in on the taco to sell the programmer to a buddy. As soon as I drove it after flashing the stock tune all I could think was "man this thing sucks to drive now." I'm curious if I'll feel the same about OVTune.
     
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  14. Sep 20, 2020 at 9:15 PM
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    As a 2.7 guy, I can say this holds true for the 2TR-FE + R156F combo in the 5 speed as well.

    Not nearly as smooth if you cut the gas prematurely. Learn what rpm your truck likes to shift at per given gear, and you’ll love these manuals.
     
  15. Sep 20, 2020 at 9:17 PM
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    Clutch start cancel is a wonderful button I use literally every time I turn my truck over (I park in neutral unless on a hill).
     
  16. Sep 20, 2020 at 9:46 PM
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