About 25K miles from the stock Dunlops?

I was fine with the stock Dunlops on my 2013 since most of my driving is highway, but at 25K I found that they were spinning a bit when taking off from a stop in the wet and even let the tail kick out a bit on fairly moderate wet corners. Is this about right for these unloved tires? The tread still looks decent and I was expecting to get 50K or so from them, but maybe it's age/rubber hardness that's catching up with them?

Is the above typical of other's experience with the Dunflops?

 

No, I had 20k on my 2015 with the Dunlops and they still looked pretty new.

 

Mine were bald at 21k miles, stock truck, no extra weight, and all highway use.

Regularly rotated, proper inflation.

 

My wife's 2012 Camry we bought new and only got 25 out of those tires...and they were Michelin. Toyota told us that the stock tires do not last as long as replacements. Even if I were to go buy the same Michelin tire that came on it, the replacement tire would last longer??? Not sure why but that's what I was told by numerous Toyota techs.

We're at 32k on my wife's 2015 4Runner and we probably have another 10k left in them

 

That's the thing... they still look pretty new at 25K but they seem to be getting slippery in the wet. Not very confidence inspiring.

 

IMOP, They are junk!, I dumped mine at 25k, I was very surprised that Toyota (although they all do it) put such junk tires on a vehicle.

 

I've heard OEM tires are built to a price point and aren't the same construction/compounds as the "same" tire not installed at the factory.

Cant say it's true or false, above my paygrade.

 

I agree with ya, they are junk. My 2016 has Goodyear Wrangler a/t so we'll see how they do until I get the lift and new tires

 

I've got 26k on my 2015 and am noticing the same behavior

 

About right for stock tires. 20 to 30k and they're done.

 

I experienced this too, I got about 35k out of mine. The tread looked like new yet when I would make a u-turn or drove in the rain, it would slip. I replaced my tires with hankooks which am much happier

 

Dunlop and hydroplaning are synonymous

 

Cool, thanks for all the replies and affirmations!

 

Just replaced mine at 38k. They had some tread left but I too noticed them losing traction on mild acceleration and turns.

 

I sold my truck with 19k miles and my dunlops were just about ready to be replaced.

They were garbage tires.

 

It's because the tires don't have full-depth siping in the tread blocks. Sipes act like fingers when it comes to a tire gripping the road. Once you wear down through the siping and are left with full tread blocks the tires aren't able to channel water as efficiently, which is why you're experiencing slipping now. They aren't worn out, technically, but they definitely won't perform as well as they did when they were new.

However, it's not just the stock Dunlops that are like that; partial-depth siping is very common across the entire industry, since full-depth siping can contribute to a 'squirming' feeling while you're driving since they allow more movement from the tread blocks themselves. Also, tire manufacturers cut sipes of varying shape and depth to help control noise from the tires, since full-depth siping creates more road noise.

Edit- More in-depth article about siping, if you're interested:

http://www.tirereview.com/sipes-deserve-credit-for-tire-traction/

 

Got about 37k out of oem Dunlops (not quite down to wear bars), and they were poor in the rain from day 1. Maybe Toyota used them for higher mpg in addition to the price point. Much happier with Michelin MS2's with 70,000 mile warranty, especially in the rain.

 

My '15 Tacoma PreRunner 6 cyl came with Dunlop AT20 Grand Trek P245/75R16 tires. Truck presently has just over 19K on the odometer. The tread wear is OK for 19K, but it's obvious these are not long-wearing tires. I don't live in a place where rain fall is common, but when it does rain, I'm inclined to take more caution. To date, I've had just one scary situation on wet pavement with these tires, but it got my attention.

One of these days I'll replace them, just not sure yet what I'll replace them with. The truck is 2WD and spends 90% of it's time on the highway. No off-roading.

 

My dealer put Dunlop AT20's on my 2010 before I took delivery. I have about 4500 miles on them. I'm hoping they will take me through a NH winter and then next year I will be looking for some decent tires to put on my Taco. I used to run BFG T/A KO's on my Wrangler and really liked them. Not sure how they will play on my Taco.

This winter I will be doing some research as to other choices I have. I do about 75% hard surface driving and the rest off road.

 

Mine came with the BFG Rugged Trails... I think Toyota puts on the cheapest POS tires they can get away with. Got rid of the Rugged Fails at 15,000 miles and went with BFG KO A/T's... every set of them I've owned (about 5 sets) averaged 60-70,000 miles.