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About to order a Tacoma some questions

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by Tacomavkk, Jan 11, 2018.

  1. Jan 11, 2018 at 6:17 AM
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    Tacomavkk

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    I’m about to order a 2018 and was pretty much all set with the off-road with all the packages except tonneau then started wondering about the TRD Pro which is about 3.7K more roughly. I know this topic has been beaten to death but my main question is on the suspension since I don’t have the technical knowledge to distinguish between the bilstein and fox. Is the fox suspension better or worse on road? Is the suspension better in all off-road conditions? Will it require more maintenance, etc?

    I’m going to be spending more time on road than off and have only test driven the OR and wouldn’t want the on road quality to be noticeably worse then the OR.

    I like the pro grill better but found out that it’s not as easy to replace the OR with the 2018 as before because of TSS. I do like the wheels better but can live with the OR wheels.

    Bottom line since I’m getting it very close to invoice is the pro worth it over the OR given my considerations?

    Any info appreciated.
     
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  2. Jan 11, 2018 at 6:24 AM
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    The Pro has more lift over the OR. The tires are different (larger) I believe. Your salesman should be able to tell you the exact differences.
     
  3. Jan 11, 2018 at 6:29 AM
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    Go for the pro, drives great on road.
    Maintenance is the same. You can also swap grill no problem on OR. Already been done
     
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  4. Jan 11, 2018 at 6:31 AM
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    OR is a great truck. I don’t have a pro, but people seem to b happy with it. With this new TSS stuff the pro should b good to go from the factory and the OR would b also, but without a lift. There r people saying it will b something that vendors with have to adjust for (TSS), but at the same time if something happens is Toyota gonna have your back? I have a 17 thanfully, but having it ready to go with the grille u want etc, may b a pivot point for u. I am sure the vendors will adapt to the TSS, but I find it to b risky considering if something happens u may not b covered regardingbthe safety stuff. If u can find a left over 17 OR, that may b an option for u. Let us know what u get!!!
     
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  5. Jan 11, 2018 at 6:33 AM
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  6. Jan 11, 2018 at 6:41 AM
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    I just went through this exercise. The Pro has the non functional hood scoop, homelink, 1” lift in the front and a TRD skid plate. All other differences are cosmetic.

    What is your goal with the truck? If keeping it stock, Pro is worth it.

    I decided to get the OR so I can spend that $3.7k on better upgrades. Sliders, skid plates, and lift and tires come in under that price point. If I watch for sales, I’ll even be able to squeeze in an iPad mount to this budget!

    The only thing I’ll be missing out on is the hood sticker (scoop), but I can live with that.
     
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  7. Jan 11, 2018 at 6:42 AM
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    Thanks guys all good info. But before anyone goes further down this get a car or SUV, I know exactly what the Tacoma offers and used to own a 4Runner with some off-roading under my belt. I’m not a naive first time truck buyer and I’m very happy with the ORs ride quality.
    I also had looked at the brochure carefully but it didn’t have much info on the suspension. I did just realize that the pro doesn’t have a moonroof, and some guys out there may scoff at me, but I do like a moonroof.
     
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  8. Jan 11, 2018 at 6:50 AM
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    Is that the only lift difference between the Pro vs the SR5, OR, and Sport?
     
  9. Jan 11, 2018 at 6:52 AM
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    When you look at all the things the Pro comes with over the Off Road, the main "big" difference is the suspension. The Fox setup is much nicer than their previous attempts at equipping the Tacoma with an upgrade, and it is a good upgrade. The "lift" is not much of a lift, it really only raises the front about 1 inch. The Pro comes with Goodyear Wranglers with Kevlar, and depending on where you are, the Off Road may not come with those same tires (same size wheels and tires, but lower-end tires, I hate that Toyota does this). The Pro rides great on road, have not taken mine off road yet. There are a lot of other minor things that you may or may not care about, some of which you can get in the Off Road -- but once you start adding those options to get it closer to the Pro, you start to creep into the Pro price range.

    There are more differences than just the suspension. The suspension is a good upgrade, and going with an aftermarket equivalent or slight upgrade is not going to be significantly cheaper like people would like to believe. Maybe a little cheaper if you do the work yourself, but maybe more if you have to pay someone to do the work.

    I got mine for 3K under MSRP, so it was worth it to me at that price. I don't think it was worth it at MSRP, but that's me.

    Make a list of the differences (including all the details like bed lights, which is one of my favorite upgrades) and how much you care about each one, and price it out. To me, looking at ALL of the differences, it's actually a pretty good value. I'm not finding any options that aren't actually useful options and just gimmicky.
     
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  10. Jan 11, 2018 at 6:53 AM
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    Not quite. The OR has bilstien shocks (upgraded from SR5) and the Pro has fox with reservoirs. Again, I will be getting a 2.5” lift so I’d be pulling those parts off anyway.

    Also, the Pro and OR both come with a rear locker.
     
  11. Jan 11, 2018 at 6:56 AM
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    Sorry, I should have been more clear. I'm talking about ride height only. I realize the OR and Sport trims have upgraded, yet different application, suspensions. I was just wondering what the difference in body clearance was. I parked next to a Sport at work yesterday and couldn't see much of a difference between that and my SR5. (Other than my bigger tires)
     
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    A back step for when I get older, Carhartt seatcovers, 4Runner wheels, Topper, and "tats all folks"! --for now!!
    good luck with that--"should" and "can" are two different scenarios -- good luck with that -- if it were me I would not rely on a vehicle salesperson. That's not to say there are not any really good sales people out there -- but having one in your particular dealer is the tricky part. Just call me a pessimist -I suppose.
     
  13. Jan 11, 2018 at 7:09 AM
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    Or experienced!!

    Hahahaha
     
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    Agree -- I had to educate the salesperson on the differences of the 4Runner Limited and why I wanted my wife to have the center diff (she won't know when or when not to use 4WD or what mode to use, and it's better for the conditions she might face when driving). I still don't think he understood, and he drives a 4Runner.
     
  15. Jan 11, 2018 at 7:14 AM
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    Also no jbl stereo on pro
     
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    FYI, some taller people (~6.2) are having issues with head room with a moon roof.
     
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    You could build a virtual pro relatively easy from a OR, with the exception of the moonroof (which isn't a relatively easy addition to a pro).

    I was deciding between the sport and the pro, and I actually did not like looking over the scoop of the sport, and doubly so because the scoop is purely for aesthetics.
     
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    I actually think it’s a pretty good tire too
     
  19. Jan 11, 2018 at 8:38 AM
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    In most of the reviews I've seen, especially when comparing to competitor vehicles, the Tacoma's tires lose a few points. They're highway tires that get clogged too easily off road.
     
  20. Jan 11, 2018 at 8:40 AM
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    OP, another thing to keep in mind is that while MSRP is only +$3700, actual market price is usually much different. I ran the same analysis and it seemed like a $6k difference since you can get about $2k off an OR and you're lucky to get a Pro for MSRP, usually $1-3k over.
     
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