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Aftermarket Locker

Discussion in '5 Lug' started by KCDuran, Feb 27, 2013.

  1. Feb 28, 2013 at 12:03 PM
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  2. Feb 28, 2013 at 12:19 PM
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    You've been happy with that? Or did you wish you had an ARB?
     
  3. Feb 28, 2013 at 12:19 PM
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  4. Feb 28, 2013 at 12:21 PM
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    why jw??
     
  5. Feb 28, 2013 at 12:28 PM
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    Okay fair enough and good to know. So, in your opinion, would what I am thinking about doing seem good to go? My buddies here in NM say it will but none of them have done this to a 5lug haha
     
  6. Feb 28, 2013 at 1:12 PM
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    Well I use the taco as a daily driver and I've taken it out on our meets but can't really use it because it needs to be locked. I'd like the piece of mind knowing I can get out of tight spots and wheel if needed slash when I wanted to
     
  7. Feb 28, 2013 at 3:58 PM
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    I think I bought the third completely assembled (4.10 gears with LSD) for around $400. I tried to install it myself and would've if I had remembered that the particular third I bought had been built for a Sequoia. They use a different pinion flange. Since I forgot about this, I removed my third, put the new one in, realized my error, then took it back out and mine back in. Then I got the flange replaced. After that I didn't want to fool with it again so I took it to a shop and let them install it for 2-300 I think.

    I don't offroad too much other than when I go hunting. I primarily bought the third so that I could regear for 31's and the LSD was a good bonus. I'm okay with the performance of the LSD. I understand it's limits and don't push it. If I were going to do more serious offroading I would go with a locker.
     
  8. Feb 28, 2013 at 8:56 PM
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    Okay so you didn't get a locker at all? You just wanted to re gear for more power on your 31s? I'm running 32s and would love to be at 4.10 hahah
     
  9. Mar 1, 2013 at 8:22 AM
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    Hey op I just received a email from arb

    Free ARB Compressors
    with the Purchase of
    ARB Air Lockers!
    Buy any one (1) ARB Air Locker, locking differential and receive
    one (1) ARB Compact Compressor (part number CKSA12) absolutely
    FREE!

    -OR-

    Buy any two (2) ARB Air Locker, locking differentials and receive
    one (1) ARB Hi-Output Compressor (part number CKMA12) absolutely FREE!


    Promo Code: SPRING2013PROMO

    *Normal fitting charges apply. This offer is not to be used in conjunction
    with any other offer.
    Offer Valid: March 1st - May 31st, 2013
     
  10. Mar 1, 2013 at 8:10 PM
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    He put in a limited slip differential. It is another option. It is friendly on pavement since it is an open diff until it senses too much of a torque difference between the wheels. However, depending on the design, if you get a wheel up in the air, it won't lock up. Easy to fix by applying a bit of braking when this happens.

    Unlike the lockrite, it will require changing out the carrier.

    The Detroit TruTrac is well regarded. It is gear driven so fairly robust compared to a clutch style LSD.
     
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  11. Mar 2, 2013 at 9:23 AM
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    Thanks man! You're my hero!!
     
  12. Mar 2, 2013 at 9:25 AM
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    Great to know Tom! I really need to get better at this stuff. Haha
     
  13. Mar 4, 2013 at 8:40 AM
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    So I ordered an ARB locker new third that'll be regeared to 4.10. I also got a mini air compressor kit.. all for ECGS. Now the waiting game begins, Ill be sure to keep everyone posted!

    Reasoning for ARB. Resale value and I can choose when and where to lock. The lockrite just seems kinda scary knowing that it may or may not damage anything... I guess piece of mind haha...
     
  14. Mar 4, 2013 at 9:01 AM
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    Thanks for the response KC. Have you gotten the ARB on yet? I like your reasoning for going with it, I agree having the switch ability will be less intimidating to most people who aren't mechanically inclined. I'm new to this as well and appreciate your answer to my question. Do you have a link to ARB's website?
     
  16. Mar 7, 2013 at 2:53 PM
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    Since I'm relatively new to the world of offroading, I'm wondering just how likely a scenario this is. I mean, considering how popular air lockers seem to be, I've never really heard of this kind of disaster happening. To be fair, when I first did research on rear lockers the "what if an air line snaps?" question was my first concern. Just trying to figure out if the possibility of this occurring is enough to deter me away from ARB...
     
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    http://www.arbusa.com/


    http://eastcoastgearsupply.com/
    If you order through ECGS they can install your locker in the third member for you (or if you don't need a new third you can have a local shop do it for you).

    Haven't gotten the locker yet. I'm getting too antsy! But can't wait man!!
     
  18. Mar 7, 2013 at 2:59 PM
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    Honestly I was thinking the same thing but as long as you properly tuck it away you'll be fine. My buddy has an ARB front and rear locker for a few years now and he's never had that issue or even worried about it.
     
  19. Mar 7, 2013 at 5:56 PM
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    Makes sense, and that's a very good point. That being said, those of us who only have power to the rear wheels kinda need all the help we can get. :D

    True dat.
     
  20. Mar 7, 2013 at 8:04 PM
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    Not sure what temperature has to do with it. I lived in Tucson for a decade and knew a few guys that wheeled hard with ARBs and did fine. If the worry is the bare nylon, stainless steel kits are available. If the worry is snagging the line, then braking would be a big worry too. (it is admitted that random shit does happen though) Most guys run the compressor in the engine bay so it is sucking hotter-than-ambient-temperature-air air in and the lockers still run fine.

    It all comes down to end goals. Mechanical lockers work fine for DD if you have a longer wheelbase and don't mind a little wear on the tires. Living in a colder climate where ice is common, a mechanical locker in the rear axle wouldn't make sense. Having the anchor wheel that an open diff provides serves a purpose at times. Mechanical lockers do have their benefits since they are mechanically simpler which should equate to more reliability (again, random shit is admitted to happen)

    For the ARB, if the compressor fails, you got an open diff. Hopefully you haven't got yourself out in the middle of nowhere where the locker would have made a difference in getting home. If you have, might be a good lesson about wheeling alone. They are more complicated and costly but to some, provide benefits worth it since the locker can be turned off, saving on tires and making road handling a bit more predictable. As for reliability, I know a certain individual who has repeatedly demonstrated that the CV axles fail before the locker. ;) :D

    It all comes down to cost vs. performance, how big is your wallet versus what you want it to do.
     
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