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Air Force dumped hundreds of remains of dead soldiers from Dover base into landfill

Discussion in 'Military' started by cc350, Dec 8, 2011.

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  1. Dec 9, 2011 at 7:35 PM
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    Our Son died at 23 less than a year after he was honorably discharged from the USAF. We respectfully disposed of his ashes off the coast of VA where he served. He loved his job and loved the AirForce, the jet he supported and the ocean. Some were spread on the flightline where he did his job. We have another Son on active duty and myself and most of the men in our family served in one branch or another. I would never entrust anyone else to "dispose" of a loved ones remains. Let alone the military. From my perspective all branches of the military focus on mission and by the nature of their work are not compassionate or the warm and fuzzy type. It is a shame....
     
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  2. Dec 9, 2011 at 8:55 PM
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    i dont blame the USAF for this.....it probably wasn't their call. they most likely were told to do this from higher up and thus they were just following orders, but there was still a better way to go about this than just dumping the ashes into a landfill.
     
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  3. Dec 11, 2011 at 11:24 PM
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    Theres a reason we are told not to follow a unlawful order.

    Shit-Canning warfighter remains sounds pretty fucking unlawful to me...
     
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  4. Dec 12, 2011 at 4:39 AM
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    It's an Air Force base, with AF employees, with contractors at an AF base. Think of how someone in the public views this with no mil experience. The blame falls on the AF and DOD, people need to be fired.

    When 1 person f's up big time in a branch, it casts a black eye on everyone in that branch. The AF needs to take responsibility and show leadership by setting examples at the highest level.
     
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  5. Dec 12, 2011 at 4:48 PM
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    While I no by support what was done, the problem lies with the directions given was for unclaimed unidentified parts to be creamated and disposed of and this was by dumping them in landfills.. They should have been collected in my opinion in a setting similar to tomb of unknown, i know some will still think this is fucked up but still.. i read some of the stories are for example remains sent home and then 6 months later they discovered that this piece of foot belonged to someone gone.. the family doesnt want the piece and doesnt want to exume (sp) the body to add it.. so its creamated and dumped.

    The current staff can't really be punished for the descions of those in the past that set the regulation or the standard for what is to be done.


    It does however need to be changed and now
     
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  6. Dec 12, 2011 at 5:56 PM
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  7. Dec 12, 2011 at 6:36 PM
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    i do agree...some one needs to get fired. last i read (sunday) is that a general was moved from Dover to the pentagon and a few civilians were transferred but thats it. REALLY!!!!! its ban hammer time for some ass hats
     
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  8. Dec 13, 2011 at 5:41 AM
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    So he got promoted? Way to go AF!
     
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  10. Dec 15, 2011 at 6:05 AM
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    WTF were they thinking? That's incredibly disrespectful.
     
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  15. Dec 15, 2011 at 11:49 AM
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    Whoever was the first SOB to say send them to the dump put that MF on the wall and hand me the gun. Jim
     
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  16. Dec 15, 2011 at 11:58 AM
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    " Sir or Ma'am the Air Force is currently investigating this. I need to refer you to 37th Training Wing Public Affairs Office with any questions".


    ^ THIS ^
     
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  18. Dec 15, 2011 at 3:03 PM
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    ill be next in line. i say when they die they should have their ashes scattered in a land fill. and that picture is making a huge buzz around here. i live about 10-20 min from ft lee
     
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  19. Dec 15, 2011 at 7:25 PM
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    The timing with this and the landfill scandal is really not good eventhough they are not related. This is just stupid on everyone's part involved. Why is that quote about always being on parade we had to memorize coming back to me?

    Considering the military is facing huge budget cuts, ppl will see this and say well why should we give them so much money when they're nothin but a bunch of shitbags like those in the AF. This is down there with Abu Ghraib.
     
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  20. Dec 15, 2011 at 8:20 PM
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    that was the policy in place so what makes that an unlawful order?
     
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