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All pro 5" rear springs installed won't level out

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by dtmccray, Jan 26, 2013.

  1. Jan 26, 2013 at 5:46 PM
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    I'm stuck on my rear end. I can't figure out why it's not sitting level. If it was just a little it wouldn't be a problem but it's about 1.5 to 1 3/4 inches lower on the ds than the pass side. Tried swapping the springs still low on ds. Measured perches they are within 1.5 degrees of each other. You can push down or pull up on the ds and it will move 4-6 inches. It seems like it kinda sticks in place but I can't find anything that is binding. I'm stumped...
     
  2. Jan 26, 2013 at 5:58 PM
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    First of all, what year tacoma?

    Could be rear shock, taco lean, or a bent frame.

    (Measure from the ground to the frame on both sides.)
     
  3. Jan 26, 2013 at 5:58 PM
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    where are you measuring?
     
  4. Jan 26, 2013 at 6:04 PM
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    Measuring from axle tube to frame. It's an 01 dbl cab prorock 60's front and rear, three link front with 12" Walker Evans co's, 5" all pro rear springs with 6 or 7 inch shackles. I put 3/4 inch more preload on the front ds co to help offset the lean but it was only marginally helpful.
     
  5. Jan 26, 2013 at 6:08 PM
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    Frame appears straight. It measures the same amount out as the axle tube to frame numbers. It sat level before I changed rear springs and axle.
     
  6. Jan 27, 2013 at 7:12 AM
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    C'mon people I'm out of ideas. Anything that you think it might possibly be...
     
  7. Jan 27, 2013 at 7:18 AM
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    did you install new shackles at the same time? check shackle length on both sides?
     
  8. Jan 27, 2013 at 7:20 AM
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    Yeah shackles are the same.
     
  9. Jan 27, 2013 at 7:32 AM
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    How squishy are your new rear springs? You say you can move the height of you rear just by pushing or pulling, by 4-6"?


    If they move that easily, then something as simple as a full tank of gas could be your difference.
     
  10. Jan 27, 2013 at 8:08 AM
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    Yeah I thought that too but, the other side doesn't move that much even with me in the bed. I need to swap the springs again just to make sure but I'm fed up with that pos truck.
     
  11. Jan 27, 2013 at 1:26 PM
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    I didn't read if you put the new packs side by side & measured...

    You mentioned pulling up & sticking on driverside, is the same result doing it to the pass. side ?
     
  12. Jan 27, 2013 at 1:32 PM
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    Measured springs on the floor within 1/8 inch at the pin. No pass side react as you would expect it to.
     
  13. Jan 27, 2013 at 3:02 PM
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    Pretty sure your answers in here , just gotta trace & re trace your work dude, I do this alot (R&R springs) & altho' I can do it in my sleep once in awhile I'll get bit overlooking something....

    Ok, dumb question time... What kind of surface are you working on ?? (I know you measured from tube to ground/frame) but hear me out, I've got what for all purposes appears to be level (slab) but it isn't & when I've got a truck sitting there, the pass. side always "appears" to be about 2" lower than dr. side, pull it out & park it just about anywhere else & all looks level, so i dunno something to consider....:notsure:

    Also you said something about changing the axle ?? If you can get a straight edge on it see how much out of horizontal it is (all axles are a little un parallel )
     
  14. Jan 27, 2013 at 7:55 PM
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    This is what it looks like.

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    I just bought a 2000 PreRunner two weeks ago and it sits the same as yours. Doetsch coilovers set at two inches up front and I believe just stock rear. I figured shocks or flattened leaf but haven't measured them yet.
     
  16. Jan 27, 2013 at 8:16 PM
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    I dunno I have measured, pushed, loosened, greased, pried, removed, reinstalled and everything I can think to do on it. I'm just going to ignore it till I get the death wobble thing fixed.
     
  17. Jan 27, 2013 at 8:22 PM
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    Does your shock extend fully?
     
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    Whats going on with the rear shocks ?? (relocation) if I'm seeing right (zoom in), the driverside is a little compressed & the pass. side looks almost maxed out....you did measure between the top of bump stop on axle to bottom of contact point on frame already ? or ?. If you get diff. results , new or not & even if you measured them side by side & they're within an 1/8" it could be a weak spring or 2 in the "low" side of the install & it wasn't until there was load putting springs under a little stress (installing them) that they reared their ugly heads... It almost looks like the beds twisted...



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  19. Jan 27, 2013 at 10:36 PM
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    I had a bad lean on the passenger side similar to yours but when i replaced both leaf packs it fixed it, and since you have switched both packs on either side it cant be a bent pack like mine was, could it be something to do with the left front causing the rear to sag?
     
  20. Jan 28, 2013 at 5:33 AM
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    The rear is leaning compressing that shock and extending the other. I have to get longer shocks, they won't let my springs droop all the way. Yeah I measured axle to frame and ground to frame and axle to ground. The springs have been swapped side to side and the ds stayed low.
     
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