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Am I making a mistake with this lift?

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by greenrustic, Jun 27, 2012.

  1. Jun 27, 2012 at 3:22 PM
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    I know that there are a lot of threads like this and I think I have read through most of them but I still left with a few questions.

    First of all I had no plans of lifting my truck but after carrying a few heavy loads and pulling a trailer I really want to do an aal to handle these situations better. I know if I just do the aal I will end up with a ridicilous rake so that got me thinking about lifting the front too.

    I have a 2012 sport with the 4 leaf spring pack. Right now I measure about 1.5" high in the rear and I was going to add the Icon 3 leaf progressive aal which would bring me up to 3" high in the rear. I was going to add bilstien 5100 extended shock as per dsm. Up front I plan to change to 5100's set at 1.75" (I am fine with some rake) on the stock springs.

    I can do all the work myself (except the alignment) and I can get the parts to my door for a little under $500. My question is am I wasting my money here? Should I really be thinking about a different lift? At this point I don't want to go to high and get into a lot of other parts ($) like uca's. Also I don't really off-road because where I live there isn't anywhere to go except for the occasional farm road, job site and beach.

    Any thoughts will be appreciated or just point me to the right thread. Thanks for reading my ramble.
     
  2. Jun 27, 2012 at 3:26 PM
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    One more thing...

    At least I'm not asking about spacers.

    No offense to those that love them.
     
  3. Jun 27, 2012 at 4:44 PM
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    if you just want it for heavy loads look into air bags instead
     
  4. Jun 27, 2012 at 4:47 PM
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    You wont need uca with 1.75 in the front, and the stock springs should handle it fine. aal in the rear is a good idea because the stock springs will slowly go out on you if your hauling and towing. I think you'll be happy when its all said and done. Good luck!
     
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    x2 on airbags ^
     
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  7. Jun 27, 2012 at 6:33 PM
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    just spent some time reading about airbags and I don't think they are for me but thanks for the suggestions.
     
  8. Jun 27, 2012 at 6:54 PM
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    The progressive aal will not handle weight well. Its designed for a cushy off road ride with more flex. A single aal will stiffen the rear up for weight capacity but "eventually" a new leaf pack designed for weight (AP Expos or Dakars) will be needed.

    From what I've read the base/sport model springs ride decent with the 5100 pre-loaded like that so that should be a good budget lift up front.....but it will ride firm as you're still pre-loading the springs.
     
  9. Jun 27, 2012 at 8:11 PM
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    I have heard that the progressive pack will initially flex under load but it does help with added weight. Is this not true?

    I just played around on toytecs site and DSM and figured out for about $80 more then I was thinking about spending I can get Eibach, a single 1.5" AAL and 5100's front and rear. This sounds ok because I thought the longer term plan was going to be a new coil up front and a new pack out back(don't want to spend the $400+ right now for the rear).

    My questions now are...
    Is this going to be a really stiff ride?
    Would any of the OME coils be better options?

    I know I'm asking for better ability to handle weight and towing but I'm not asking to bust my guts.

    I would probably set the front billies at stock or may be .85" but again right now I do not want to get involved with UCA's or get too high.

    Thanks in advance for any insight and again thanks for reading my ramble.
     
  10. Jun 27, 2012 at 8:19 PM
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    I had 5100's in front set at 2.5" and it was stiff as hell. Hated the ride. I got OME 885x's and love them. Still have 2.5" up front with the 5100 set at 0. The ride is night and day. I cant speak for Eibach but Ive heard good things. Cant go wrong with either imo. As far as UCA, its hit or miss man. If you go up to 2.5 some trucks you can get away with stock uca, some wont.
     
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    I was able to go up to 2.5 and keep the stock UCA's.
     
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    you dont NEED rear 5100s btw either.. I am running 5100s in the front set at 2.5" and have the wheelers 3 leaf progressve AAL, with stock TRD bilsteins in the back. i love it, no complaints.

    EDIT/ I was also able to go to 2.5" without new UCAs
     
  13. Jun 27, 2012 at 8:22 PM
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    Looking at the specs of your truck is that OMD leaf pack and Old Man Doug refurbished pack?
     
  14. Jun 27, 2012 at 8:25 PM
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    Sure is. OMD special. I didnt want to go too high in the rear. Wanted to keep a lower profile but have a better ride. Chevy 1 ton aal. Took out the donor and kept the two uppers with the chevy 1 ton on the bottom. Honestly one of the best things Ive done to my truck. My springs were getting kinda saggy and needed saving :D
     
  15. Jun 27, 2012 at 8:38 PM
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    I have the TSB leaf pack in my 09' which should be the same pack yours came with standard. I added standard length 5100's in rear and front set at 1.75" My truck is level now and rides way better than stock IMO. No vibes or anything and bump are WAY smoother. Since your doing this for weight/towing, I think you should get an aal i back to make it 5 leafs with extended 5100 and set front at 1.75 still. You will still have a rake, but it will be equivalent to what you have now. The front and back will go up in proportion so your not really changing much. Then when you tow, the back will get weighed down and it looks level again (theoretically) :) Ignore the AT tires, but just to give you and idea, this is the oem 4 leaf pack with standard length 5100 and front set at 1.75 with stock UCA. I love the ride and no issues

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    Its not too high at all. Take these pics posted and imagine another 1" - 1.5" in back... itll look great. The front will ride wonderful and the back will be super still if you add a leaf, but once its under weight it should be better
     
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