Any PC Builders Out There?

Thats how i feel too. I still on a RX 570 8gb, i5-4960k, and16gb of DDR3 memory lol. But everything i play still works great. Im only on a 1080p/60hz monitor though

 

Yeah if you’re at 1080p it’s hard to justify updating. This is also why I laugh at Intel fanboys pointing out the 9900K performance at 1080p. You’re some sort of special if you’re buying a 9900k level processor and running 1080p lol. Once you jump up to 1440p Intel loses their advantage or it drops to under 5% depending on the game.

I will say now for a strictly gaming rig at 1440p the Ryzen 3600 is a ridiculously good value considering it’ll automatically overclock to 4.3 ghz on a low end X570 board no problem.

 

+1. I usually game at 4K (albeit not AAA games) on my 4770k with 1080 SLI and I have no reason to upgrade. IMO intel doesn't improve their CPUs enough for me to want to upgrade.

 

Hey! i actually build Gamer PCs as a side hustle. Ive shipped builds from $400 to $4,800 from maine to california. I definitely have a passion for building a solid rig from nothing but a tabletop of parts.

My current build is way too extensive to list, im too lazy, but it is a $7,300 build with quad 1440p monitors, and a massive array of liquid cooling, threadripper, etc etc. Its a lot of fun.

 

i5 8500 beats it for gaming and at a better price point.

 

Not with precision boost on at 1440p. It’s close though and both are good processors. Depends on whether you want team red or blue and if you care about a bit of future proofing.

 

Actually I’m wrong, the 3600 kills it by 10% clock on clock stock. Some or most of that advantage would disappear at 1080p but will be there at 1440p. Pricing is about the same depending on where you go.

Again it heavily depends on your specific setup and, honestly, how dedicated you or your buyer are to buying Intel. There is still a large contingent of people who will buy Intel even if AMD makes more sense at the same price level. There’s no shame in that, too each their own.

 

Nice, that’s a tough market to get established in. I build occasionally for others but not for profit. I’m not dedicated enough to chase the sales side.

My last build was a crazy TR 1950x as well. I still have some of it lying in my closet. TR, liquid cooling, SLI RTX cards, enough ram to kill something, etc lol. It was for my work but eventually it wasn’t needed as image stitching has become more efficient by a factor of ten or more. Now I’m rocking a simple 3700x/2080Ti build. It’s nice when your PC doesn’t need 1.4 kw from the wall lol.

 

You are correct on clock speed being faster, and some benchmarks it's actually faster in as well, but the Intel chip will trump it in most real time game benchmark tests! Check out some YouTube clips. I might be wrong, I'm going on 2 month old info because I haven't taken the time to look in the last few weeks lol

 

The i5 (green) wins or loses slightly at 1080p and loses at 1440p which was my point. The game in the picture below is Doom but it's a good example because it's middle of the pack for results. It’s close though and honestly when it’s that close it’s time to look at everything else. New triple AAA titles don't care as much about the Intel high clocks especially at 1440p. Intel wins on one thread, if the chip has to do anything else Ryzen pulls ahead this gen. There are some really good tests out there where even running Discord and normal background tasks like a browser with a few windows open tanks the i5 and i7 scores.



The advantage to with Ryzen is dummy overclocking. You go into Ryzen master and hit one button. Suddenly your at max clocks while still leaving cool 'n quiet on to keep wattage reasonable under load. It's also a bit more future proof given it's support of more features. I've been recommending nothing but the Ryzen 3600 for cheap back to school builds when asked. It's a no brainer when paired with a mid range super card or 5700XT. Leaves cash in the tank too for a 144 hz 1440p freesync panel which is the only piece of equipment, arguably, that matters since it gives a measurable advantage.

 

Anyone searching for a GPU? Selling my Zotac 1070ti

 

Heck, I can barely give away 1 of my 1080's since all the new cards came out.

 

Yeah, just comes down to pricing. I'm sure it would sell on Reddit.

 

Yeah. The 1080 is somewhere around the 2060 Super for performance, so if you’re asking more than 60ish percent of that cost it might be a tough sell. So anything much more than $240 is tough to get for a 1080 right now, even though I know that sounds super low. Sure there are cards floating around on eBay for $300 but they aren’t really selling either. Play into that too a lot of people who look at used stuff are long time computer gamers who know that era was full of cards used for mining and you kind of have worst case scenario for supply and demand.

 

Finally biting the bullet to put an SSD in my machine, is the Evo 860 worth almost $40 more than the price as the Crucial MX500?
Looking at a 1TB drive to just transfer the contents of my HDD to the SSD.

 

It looks like the MX500 has no DDR cache? That’ll lead to slower boots from the drive and a little less consistent initial read performance of commonly opened items from the drive. Performance over long writes or with infrequently accessed data should be limited more by the SATA interface than the drive itself.

 

Honestly not sure, haven’t dived (dove?) into the SSD stuff because I’ve been stupid busy, simply searched duck duck go for a budget SSD and the MX500 was almost universally the runner up to the Evo.

Scanning through this I think it will be a hell of an upgrade from my HDD and the data shows it should handle my camera dumps/photo/video editing well, on top of the little bit of gaming I do.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/crucial-mx500-1-tb/

 

Yes, an SSD of any sort is an upgrade but without a cache you’re literally getting half of a SSD. If you have the money look for a drive with a cache. Just my two cents though. I hate slow drives. I have a PCI-E 4.0 NVMe lol.

 

What took you so long? lol

 

Too many other obligations in life, I’m lucky I set aside the $$ to get the rig I have now.