Any PC Builders Out There?

I'd also recommend switching from a Sapphire 5700XT to a PowerColor or AsRock 5700XT model. Both get better reviews under load. Also don't buy a reference design, usually the manufacture custom coolers are better.

Yeah PSUs make radio noise. You will want to run something oversized, which will decrease noise though my understanding of why is weak, and high grade. I would suspect picking the very high end Seasonics might be the best bet. They pay a lot of attention to their component quality and I know their interference is a part of that. They come with a large cost though. Another option is to point the fan down, which is normal in most cases, and cover the rest of the PSU in copper foil lol. A bit low tech but I've heard of it being done.

 

Rookie here again.
Many apologies in advanced.

How am. I doing so far? Tips, advice, shaming. Anything is appreciated.


Hope this works.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7dYTZf

 

As cheap as ram is, I'd double up and get 4x8 unless that fancy m.2 drive uses a slot.

Personally, I'd just run the older style ssd. I run 2x850 pros in raid 0. As far as speed, I can't tell a difference, it just looks good on paper and raid 0 is all I ever ran.

I'm sure others will disagree.

 

Edit: sorry. 850 evo. 860's are out for like $150/500 gig.

 

I'll disagree first lol.

One NVMe will outperform that raid 0 combo and leave more room for expansion later. That being said the Blue is a pretty slow NVMe drive. I mean it's fine but there isn't a ram cache on it from what I've heard which will hurt write performance. Jump up to the 960 or 970 Samsung drives or the WD black if you're going to run just a single drive for the better cache and NAND performance. Don't ask what I run though lol. I said fudge it and bought a PCI-E 4.0 drive for instant boot lol.

2 x 8 GB is lots for a modern system. Actually funny enough 2 x 4 GB still tests well in games but struggles with things like multiple windows open in chrome. To save cash I'd start with 16 GB and wait to add two more sticks until you regularly notice you're running out of ram. More ram doesn't mean more better until you're regularly using all of it.

That motherboard is garbage. At that price point in the X570 boards the Gigabyte boards are the best rated. If you want to stick with MSI their boards have crappy VRMs until you hit the Unify model, which is worth twice almost what that board is. I personally have a Unify because I started off with a Gaming Plus from MSI but found out about its power issues first hand. The 3600 would be fine with it but get something with good VRMs and you'll have a better upgrade path in the future when used 3950's are cheap as soup.

Do not buy a reference design blower 5700XT. It'll be too hot. I personally don't mind MSI AMD but their AMD cards aren't cooled well enough in general. Switch to AsRock or Powercolor with one of their custom coolers and you'll gain a few FPS from lower temperatures for basically free.

 

@m603holden the AsRock three fan card is on sale for blower price right now! https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-5700-xt-rx5700xt-pgd-8go/p/N82E16814930023?&quicklink=true

 

Is there a notable difference with the UD, vs Gaming, vs Aorua for the Gigabyte boards?

And a fast Nvme, is 1tb fine or should I increase capacity or go for another approach?

 

1 TB is a good start unless you have a pile of data you need to store. You can always add a storage SATA drive later if needed for cheap storage on things that don't need SSD speeds.

Also this is the board I run: https://www.newegg.com/msi-meg-x570-unify/p/N82E16813144273?&quicklink=true

It's more expensive but also moar better. Seriously though if you want a solid board that's what I'd go with. While I stand by Gigabyte as being the best built cheap X570 board right now the MSI Unify is the best value per dollar X570 board right now with great cooling.

 

Also I'd swap to a modular or at least semi modular PSU. With the PSU you picked you'll be okay but you'll have a hornets nest of extra wires in the bottom of your case. Not that you can see it but it'll be a pain anytime you have to open up the box and add anything that need more power.

 

Yeah I had a modular one originally and was trying to budget. But I should switch back because I'm assuming a quality power supply will remain as I expand and upgrade. I'll switch back. Swapped out a few items. I'll update my list.

And case? Zero idea there. Im more function over style. I do like being able to see in, but couldn't care less about flashing lights. I'll keep things tidy and presentable, with good air flow being a priority I'm assuming.



https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MqfHq3

 

Maybe I should explain the AMD board chipsets quick.

Stay away from the first Gen chipsets (A320, B350, X370) since they were never built to supply the 3000 CPUs with their aggressive XFRs (extended frequency range.)

You could use a B450 or X470 board with your CPU. There is some risk of getting a board with an early release Bios though and not being able to boot off your CPU initially though so I would avoid them for your first time build. The X470 is a great value though.

The X570 boards were designed for the CPU your buying so they are the easy choice. The chipset is more expensive to make though so avoid cheap versions of the board. Basically the low end boards get around the expensive chipset by going cheap everywhere else, so try to go uo to at least the $250 boards to make sure you're getting a solid motherboard. Changing motherboards is easily the worst swap in a new PC so get a good one and test that it boots before throwing it in the case. Follow one of the Linus build guides but don't drop all your shit like he does lol.

 

The Fractal case you picked is good. I've worked with it before.

 

Nice. Looks like I'm on the right path. Watched this last night. Did everything you mentioned. Went into the details of detailing with the Bios as well.

https://youtu.be/1Zt1P41pjE4

 

One other thought, consider upgrading to the 3600x. Now to be clear the 3600 and 3600X are really the same chip but the 3600X comes with a better cooler. If you're going to use the cooler in the box buy the 3600X and it'll be a bit better simply because it'll run cooler which will mean a better boost clock. If you're buying an aftermarket cooler go with the 3600. The price of a 3600 with a good cheap aftermarket cooler can be cheaper than a 3600X so check that out before pulling the trigger either way. No one really explains this well when they recommend the 3600 since all reviewers pretty much assume you'll buy an aftermarket cooler lol.

 

How's that processor long term? If I don't try to redline it, will it hold me over? Will I be likely upgrading down the line? Seems for gaming the stress is more on the gpu.

I know it's either buy once cry once, or buy twice and just taking a beating. Haha.

I've got no issue spending the $$ if it makes sense. As this goes my budget seems to be around the $1200-1400 area

 

The 3600 is more than enough CPU for a good 3-5 year cycle. It's the hands down winner right now for cost to performance. 6 cores and 12 threads at good clocks and IPC can handle pretty much anything.

If you're going to spend buy a better motherboard with better VRMs so you can swap to a better CPU if you ever need it.

 

Perfect. That's the kind of growth I'd like to set myself up for. Any suggestions? I'm assuming with better regulators there's less of a beating on components?

Haha you guys are going to get so sick of me. I'll be hitting"buy" probably by the end of the week so I won't drag it out too long.

 

I linked a board back a few posts ago. The MSI X570 Unify is a board with 12 phase VRMs, large heat sinks, and lots of other goodies while chopping out the RGB and bling to save costs.

 

$1399.04 on the build. In budget.

Perfect. I'm excited.

 

Don't forget to get Windows 10 lol.