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Anyone run 295/75r16 on a first gen?

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  1. Apr 22, 2020 at 6:34 PM
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    razhick4x4

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    Getting close to picking up a set of new 33" tires for my first gen. Was planning on going with 285/75r16 but i've had too much time on my hands with this corona stuff:D, hence my arrival at 295s. Has anyone run these on a first gen? what about both 285s and 295s (comparison)? Was there a whole lot of trimming and hammer work required to fit them? how about gearing? is there any sort of difference between the two (besides the obvious weight and visual differences)? at this point, i'm still planning on going with a set of 285s but my curiosity has gotten the best of me;).

    and of course... Pics are always appreciated and encouraged!

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    My truck is a 3.4 V6 with a 5 speed manual and the stock 4:10 gears. I have a 3" lift kit installed and i don't plan on regearing any time soon if i can help it. also, the wheels i am planning on picking up are 16x8 Pro-Comp 69 series with a 4" bs.
    wheels:https://www.4wheelparts.com/p/pro-c...ttern-flat-black-7069-6883/_/R-BKBQ-7069-6883

    Thx in advance!
     

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  2. Apr 22, 2020 at 8:03 PM
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    Yes, yes, and yes.

    Fatter tires and wider rims will always require more trimming and hammering.

    Have you searched in the tires/wheels section for that tire size? You'll no doubt find others who run that size, and what they had to do to fit them.
     
  3. Apr 22, 2020 at 8:09 PM
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    I did look in the wheels and tires section for info, No luck. all the threads that i have found with info on running 295s were for 2nd gens. Also, I know that running wider wheels and tires will require trimming and hammering but i was also wondering how much more. As i understand it, i wont have to do too much for 285s aside from the pinch weld and some plastic trimming. the -.5" of backspacing on the new wheels (when compared to stock) should take care of any frame rubbing issues.
     
  4. Apr 22, 2020 at 8:29 PM
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    Yeah, those dumb 2nd genners ruin it, don't they, lol :D

    But, as far as "how much more," it's kind of irrelevant if you've already relegated yourself to some hammering and trimming. It could be 6 hits with the hammer instead of just 2, but who really knows... There is a LOT of variables that are unique to everyone. I've seen everything from "my tires don't rub at all with 33's and no lift" up to "I had to tub the firewall" lol.

    In the end you kinda have to just dive in and go for it.

    Now, if you're considering 35's, that's a different story.

    Just make sure you account for wheel articulation. A lot of people just do a little hammering so it doesn't rub when it's sitting in the driveway or the mall parking lot, but then they hit the trail and tear their fender liners up.

    Something else though: what is driving your tire size selection? Generally speaking, a skinnier tire (like a 255/85r16) is actually a better tire in most conditions, and still a true 33. Anything but real deep mud or snow, or severe side hills, a skinny tire (pizza cutter) actually performs better. Even in moderate deep mud, the skinnies will penetrate to the harder ground where there's more traction. Rocks, dirt, roots, etc... pizza cutters perform better. They have the added benefit of not requiring nearly as much hammering. Some people say they didn't need ANY with <3" of lift.

    There's a whole set of threads on the subject, but might be worth a look. Some people don't really like the look of them which is probably why the 285's and wider are so popular.
     
  5. Apr 22, 2020 at 9:28 PM
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    That is a fair point on the "how much more" comment. I can understand that and...consider that question resolved:thumbsup:. I have actually considered the Pizza cutters (255/85R16) but ended up deciding not to go with them for two main reasons.

    One: they are, as a rule, significantly more expensive. In 285, i'm planning on a set of Grabber A/Txs @$190 ea. if i went with 295s, i'd probobly go with the Nitto Ridge Grappler which run at about $220 ea. (i think). Or if i went with a 255, then most of them tend to reside around the $250 ea. mark. the one exception to this rule is the Yokohama M/Ts @ $229 ea.

    Two: They pretty much are only available in Mud Tires (unless i wanted to go with a Goodyear Endurence H/T...no thanks). While i'm not nescisarally opposed to running a M/T, I am forced to think about the day to day use of my truck as, it is still my DD:annoyed:. Mud tires are heavier but more importantly, I currently live in the PNW which is wet 9 months of the year. plus i'm planning on moving to Montana this summer which gets pretty snowy and icy during the winter. with the exception of @Deathbysnusnu's experience with his Toyos and Iroks (he's in CO so a somewhat similar climate), most people seem to agree that harsh winters and M/Ts are no bueno, at least on a DD. Again... :annoyed:.

    As far as the look of the two, they are different but i like both. and the more i think about the prices, i am realizing that if i can wait until I move to pull the trigger, then i could avoid sales tax (which would increase my budget for the actual wheels and tires):notsure:.

    it also may be worth mentioning that, while i'm not absolutely cemented to it, my budget is around $1500. just adding a little more context to the conversation.

    thoughts anybody?
     
  6. Apr 22, 2020 at 10:13 PM
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    Fuck that's a lot to read.

    Based on the size initially given, I'd say just go 255/85/16

    Can be had as an all-terrain and is cheaper than the only other part I read, your $1500 budget.
     
  7. Apr 22, 2020 at 10:18 PM
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    fair enough, sometimes i get carried away haha. I havent been able to find anything in an all terrain in that size, but then again i've only looked at Discount Tire and their selection can be somewhat limited sometimes. At this point, i have been looking around and the Goodyear Duratracs are a lot cheaper than i remember them being. I might just go with those TBH. looking into it now but i welcome suggestions. gives me something to do lol.
     
  8. Apr 22, 2020 at 10:24 PM
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    Huh?

    Dude, Coopers immediately
     
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    i've looked at the coopers before but was scared away by the price (like $250+ a pop). I suppose it is worth mentioning that i'm looking to fit wheels into that $1500 budget too. maybe I should give them another look:notsure:.
     
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    The stock wheels are actually a really good fit for the 255/85s since they're a little narrower.

    I guess I'm just used to that price, I'm a BFG fanboi... :anonymous:

    But the overall difference in price is like ~$200 for a set of 5. That's like... what... a couple cups of coffee?
     
  11. Apr 23, 2020 at 8:52 AM
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    I used to. I personally didn't like there performance in snow conditions because the truck would just float. I'd need 4x4 to get moving on flat ground on snow packed roads.

    I definitely rubbed but you should be able to clear them with just a hammer and knife. Getting some SPC uppers would help push them away from the firewall also.
     
  12. Apr 23, 2020 at 9:00 AM
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    Good size, but IMO 285/75/17 are better as they a bit narrower and a bit taller, plus more tire options. Lots of hammering and some cutting required for full clearance, but no tubbing.
     
  13. Apr 23, 2020 at 9:03 AM
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    hmm, i'll think about that. i had discounted the stock wheels but if i'm going with a narrower tire... hmm

    as far as BFG, i've got nothing against them and the KM3s (and the KM2s) are up there for some of the best Mud Tires out there. Unfortunately though, my winter weather requirements relegate me to the A/T segment. dollar for dollar, the Ko2s just dont make sense for me. I have been pretty seriously looking at the Duratracs in 285 though, they are about as aggressive as i can find in an A/T, but they still have the Three peak severe weather rating. Plus, they're a lot more affordable than i remember them being (only like $203 per tire). when i was looking at tires for my old truck, i remember them being pretty significantly more expensive. that'll certainly be something to look into.
     
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    hmm, so in snow the narrower tires dig better? that's in line with everything that i've read. again, i'm weary of the higher price point and... if i do go with the pizza cutters, the only A/T available is the coopers. i'm not saying that they're not good, i know that a lot of ppl on here run them and love them... but are they worth the extra $$$?
     
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    Nice looking truck. I was hoping to stick with 16" wheels (lower price point and more sidewall) but i'll give them a look. i should probobly stick with what i know will fit but the prospect of bigger tires is like siren song:D.
     
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    Yup! I put on 295/75r16s about 3 months ago on my 2003 double cab 3.4. I have the OME kit from Wheelers with 2882 coils, so was probably sitting about 2.5 to not quite 3" of lift. I have stock rims and it rubbed during turns. Added 1.5 spacers and trimmed some plastic, no hammering, and no more rubbing. But then I added an ARB bullbar and winch a couple of weekends ago. That settled the front enough that I get some rubbing in turns again. I'm going to get 2883 springs (yeah, it never ends), which I think should help.

    It's storming outside now, so I'll take some pics tomorrow.
     
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    ok, i've probobly got a solid 3" of lift and it'll prolly stay like that for a while. the springs i'm running are around the height of the 882s, but they are heavier than the 883s (883s are 590lb, mine are 620lb). I basically went for the tallest, stiffest spring i could find, anything more and i'll have to start running a 2nd gen spring. the ride's tough as nails but it's set up to be able to carry heavy loads and it handles great. out of curiosity, were you rubbing on the inner fender, the pinch weld, or the frame? the stock alloys (and steel wheels i think) have 4.5" of Backspacing, which causes them to rub at the frame when you go above basically a 31x10.5 (hence why i'm likely going to go with an aftermarket wheel with more offset). looking forward to seeing some pics though.
     
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    Yeah that's keen. I have near the same setup (suspension wise) OME kit from Wheelers with 883's and an ARB bumper. Glad I went with 883's to start with. I think that is what the site recommended when I ordered with DC, V6 and add-on bumper. Look forward to seeing a pic of yours with that size. I'll be upgrading at some point but investing in other projects (manual swap featuring Marlin Crawler) currently.

    Thanks for sharing. Awesome to find someone with a close setup to give you peace of mind in buying. Figured I would need spacers with my stocks also
     
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    list is growing fast
    these tires are at maxx knock offs and should be what you’re looking for in a skinny 33”
     

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