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Are these coilovers salvageable?

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by camptaco01, Nov 7, 2017.

  1. Nov 7, 2017 at 6:42 PM
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    camptaco01

    camptaco01 [OP] Well-Known Member

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    These were run on my dads truck with blown bushings for quite a while. My guess is they're toast, but is there anyway I could save them? IMG_4931_386dde792430ba1f03dd964ac059f4d9a0e1ac52.jpg IMG_4933_22b815339423ff05026f73ff353f62030ef78be4.jpg IMG_4934_30e997b5023ece51248acf47c23e87ba47458063.jpg IMG_4935_1398a240790cbe61c1549cdf333ee6ac93af229a.jpg
     
  2. Nov 7, 2017 at 6:46 PM
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    put new bushings in and it should be fine.
     
  3. Nov 7, 2017 at 6:46 PM
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    I wouldn’t run them... those look pretty old, and those welds don’t look that high quality anyway.

    But I would at least rebuild them, and the obvious new bushings.
     
  4. Nov 7, 2017 at 6:48 PM
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    I'm no welder, but couldn't you source a similar size loop from a junk yard and cut those off and weld the new ones on? Not saying it would be worth the trouble, but seems like it could be done if you had the equipment and the know how
     
  5. Nov 8, 2017 at 12:53 AM
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    Being clueless about if those are Nitrogen Filled

    To weld new parts the shocks would need to be purged all the traces of what ever is in there removed .

    Plus cleaning of all the road dirt in the porous metal .

    To reweld this correct it would no doubt end up more expensive then buying new .

    Install new bushing and call it good

    Is sending them to the manufacture to be rebuilt a option ??

    What is the story behind not replacing the bushings ??
     
  6. Nov 8, 2017 at 3:48 AM
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    JB weld the wallowed out area and fit new bushings in. It should be fine.
     
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    JB Weld?
    Throw new bushings in and run them?

    NOPE

    Throw in the trash can and move on with life. Going for the apathetic ghetto rig these might cost you your life if the eyelet shears off at speed.
     
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  8. Nov 8, 2017 at 5:17 AM
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    How do you know they are worth even trying to salvage? The dampers themselves are likely toast, unless you've had them tested.

    Get the manuf. to give you a quote to rebuild the damper, install new mounts and bushings. If they don't do rebuilds, or tell you they are not rebuildable, they aren't worth owning anyway.

    If they will sell you new dampers, you could reuse the springs and collars.

    If they do give a rebuild quote, compare to the price of new from a quality vendor like Marie @HeadStrong Off-Road. I bet you find that new is the better value.
     
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    I had the same ones on my 98 when I bought it. Took em off and traded for a self propelled lawnmower. Lawnmower still works. Not sure where those coilovers went. Is that them? haha
     
  10. Nov 8, 2017 at 7:11 AM
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    Stuff and junk and things...
    Toss them in the trash.

    They can be rebuilt, new seals/oil/nitrogen but that lower eyelet is garbage. Not worth it to try and weld a new chunk of round tube on there.
     
  11. Nov 8, 2017 at 7:15 AM
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    That looks like a crack to me. I wouldn't 'just throw new bushings on there'. Like Clearwater Bill and Wyoming09 said, find out how much time/$$ would go into rebuilding and rewelding them properly and compare it to the cost of a new pair. If the prices are even in the same ballpark, go with new. For example, a quick google search puts the fabtech coilover kit (FTS2300K) at ~$550. If I couldn't get them rebuilt and fixed *properly* for under 200, I'd just go new. But that's just me. You might draw the line higher.
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  12. Nov 8, 2017 at 1:11 PM
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    Those look just like my old shocks except they said Fox instead of where your Fabtech is labeled. I believe the two companies had partnered up for building that shock, but someone please correct me here if I'm totally wrong on this.

    Had bought mine used for $50. Bought a $10 rebuild kit that took forever to find online, used some shock oil I had laying around from the dirt bike, and they worked decently as far as my mall crawling goes. They have an independent floating piston (IFP). Look them up if you're not familiar with that. It's a little piston that rides on air and deals with bottoming out resistance on bigger slower hits. Nothing bad to say about them. Never really had the chance take a good cruise through the desert like I wanted to.

    What I did do is find iShock selling #600 coils each for $30 on clearance. Coils are 2.5" inside diameter by 14" long I think. This of course made all the difference in the world. The blue springs on yours like what mine came with are something like #1,000 spring rate and will ride like... well... won't even move! I went around like that for a few weeks. There is absolutely no way I would have taken those off road in my light little 4 banger regular cab with 1k rated coils. Fabtech was the one I had reached out to on the spring rate.

    They're built for the Toyota Tundra originally and probably only intended for it.

    Overall for how cheap I had got all that stuff for, I couldn't go wrong. But if I were to do it again I'd go a different route. Given your situation I would definitely NOT use those. The weld is a scary looking little string that looks like it's just waiting to go. Couldn't imagine having a shock break on me and have the whole truck lunge down on just one side. Scary. Not worth it in my opinion and not worth the chance for what those shocks are.

    If you Google "Fox Fabtech coilover rebuild" you can find some more stuff on them internally too, like what the IFP pressure should be.

    Thought I'd share this because I couldn't really find much into on these when I had got them and can hopefully help you and anyone else out

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  13. Nov 11, 2017 at 5:02 PM
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    camptaco01

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    Were never going on my truck, but now they're definitely going in the trash. Thanks for the insight, guys.
    (Also, these are for a tundra)
     

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