1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Are Wheel Spacers Safe?

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by jmed99, Apr 3, 2010.

  1. Apr 3, 2010 at 10:26 AM
    #1
    jmed99

    jmed99 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2009
    Member:
    #12708
    Messages:
    681
    Gender:
    Male
    SC
    Vehicle:
    09 DC PreRunner TRD OR
    I did a search and read a ton of threads but couldn't locate one that discussed the safety of spacers in depth.

    I was thinking about using them on the TRD sport rims. Spidertrax seems to be the best from my research.

    I've asked several people here in my home town and they say they are not safe and not to use them. :confused: If you think they are not safe please post here. I don't want an unsafe setup. Will tire shops stay away from rotating the tires when they find out I have spacers? Are they safe?

    Thanks for the opinions! :D
     
  2. Apr 3, 2010 at 10:42 AM
    #2
    jhodge83

    jhodge83 Any dog under 50# is a cat and cats are useless... Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2007
    Member:
    #1432
    Messages:
    28,096
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jamie
    Moncks Corner, SC
    Vehicle:
    09 Timberland Mica DC 4WD Sport
    wat?
    you'll fine many people on here that use spidertrax and have no issues. there is a difference in 1st and 2nd gens for what they need though. 1st gens need lug centric and 2nd gens need hub centric. get the right ones and you'll be ok
     
  3. Apr 3, 2010 at 10:53 AM
    #3
    jmed99

    jmed99 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2009
    Member:
    #12708
    Messages:
    681
    Gender:
    Male
    SC
    Vehicle:
    09 DC PreRunner TRD OR
    Yeah it looks like a lot of people here think they are safe. Does anyone think they are unsafe? If so, I would like to hear from them. Maybe they have had issues or opinions that would be informative.

    Is it typically hard to find a tire shop that would do tire work (ie. rotate tires) with spacers?

    Thanks!
     
  4. Apr 3, 2010 at 10:55 AM
    #4
    jhodge83

    jhodge83 Any dog under 50# is a cat and cats are useless... Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2007
    Member:
    #1432
    Messages:
    28,096
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jamie
    Moncks Corner, SC
    Vehicle:
    09 Timberland Mica DC 4WD Sport
    wat?
    there have been people that did not install them correctly or buy the wrong type and have issues. there are threads on here about it. i dont see why it would matter to them rotating tires since all they do is just like doing it w/o them. no extra hassle.
     
  5. Apr 3, 2010 at 11:10 AM
    #5
    jmed99

    jmed99 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2009
    Member:
    #12708
    Messages:
    681
    Gender:
    Male
    SC
    Vehicle:
    09 DC PreRunner TRD OR
    I've read they dont rotate them due to liability issues...not because of any extra effort.
     
  6. Apr 3, 2010 at 11:14 AM
    #6
    VancityCK

    VancityCK Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2009
    Member:
    #15995
    Messages:
    109
    Gender:
    Male
    Vancouver
    Vehicle:
    09 Magnetic AC TRD Offroad
    Well, I'm going to be a bit of an ass, but rotating your own tires is not a hard thing to do...

    I think the "unsafe" rep for spacers come from the type that just sit between the wheel and hub, not like the spidertrax which bolt to the hub, and the wheel gets bolted to them. Sorry if that's not clear, I'm having trouble putting my thoughts into words.
     
  7. Apr 3, 2010 at 11:44 AM
    #7
    jhodge83

    jhodge83 Any dog under 50# is a cat and cats are useless... Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2007
    Member:
    #1432
    Messages:
    28,096
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jamie
    Moncks Corner, SC
    Vehicle:
    09 Timberland Mica DC 4WD Sport
    wat?
    yeah...the 1/4" to 1/2" spacers that sit between the hub and wheel w/o getting longer studs wuld be more unsafe. now if someone were to get longer studs pressed in, that would be a different issue. IIRC, there have been peope unhappy w/ the small spacers between causing the whels to wobble.
     
  8. Apr 3, 2010 at 5:25 PM
    #8
    Taco4x4NC

    Taco4x4NC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2010
    Member:
    #30601
    Messages:
    879
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    David
    Western North Carolina
    Vehicle:
    2010 4x4 DC/LB "Pytrite Mica/Katzkin leather
    3m clear bra or Venture, stant locking gas cap, Shield, front windows tinted, weathertechs, ARE "Z" topper. Sockmonkey decal, Billy 5100's x 4 corners, Eibach coils, Toytec 1.5 AAL. Michelin 265/75/16 MS2's, Grillcraft MX series/TOYOTA badging. FJ/SE TRD Anthracite gray wheels. Katzkin leather/heated seats.

    I am not expert on wheel spacers, but your question alone causes me pause. I would not even consider installing them on my truck. I think the advise you are being given is correct, they ARE NOT SAFE. Again, I am not an expert, but I would not install these if they were given to me free.

    For what its worth,

    Taco4x4nc
     
  9. Apr 3, 2010 at 5:28 PM
    #9
    chris4x4

    chris4x4 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. Moderator

    Joined:
    May 8, 2008
    Member:
    #6497
    Messages:
    106,148
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    FlimFlubberJAM
    Tenoe, AZ
    Vehicle:
    2013 Rubicon Unlimited,
    4.10 gears, sliders, and lots of buttons.
    Personally, If they are installed correctly, I dont see them being Unsafe. However, I wouldnt run them.
     
  10. Apr 3, 2010 at 5:34 PM
    #10
    Sparky4.0

    Sparky4.0 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2010
    Member:
    #32833
    Messages:
    820
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Aaron
    WestTexas
    Vehicle:
    01 trd beat to hell
    i would never put another possible (weak link) on my vehicle. but thats just me. i have never heard any bad about properly installed spacers.
     
  11. Apr 3, 2010 at 5:41 PM
    #11
    T-Sali12

    T-Sali12 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2009
    Member:
    #21287
    Messages:
    18
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    98 2.4L Standard Cab
    Fabtech 3.5" performance lift, 3" body lift, full magnaflow exhaust, K&N cold air intake, cobra PA, pioneer head unit ans speakers, 2 bazooka 10'' subs with 400w amp
    IMO never install spacers unless you absolutlely need them... Both of my mechanics said the same thing they strongly advised me to deal with the rubbing or get longer studs pressed in... From what i hear i would not put them on
     
  12. Apr 3, 2010 at 8:23 PM
    #12
    Cryer

    Cryer O shizzle!

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2009
    Member:
    #14194
    Messages:
    173
    Gender:
    Male
    Bryan, Tx
    Vehicle:
    09 Tacoma TRD off road 4x4
    3" lift rims tires
    i had spacers on my previous car. and theres wasnt a tire shop in town that would touch the tire ( while on the car) for any reason. so if i had a flat i had to take it off and take the tire to them. said it was a "liability"

    I was told that if you use ones such as spidertrax youll be fine. since they have new studs. but if you just use generic spacers that is like a big washer, you run the risk of cracking studs, since there is less area for the lugnuts to hold onto.
     
  13. Apr 4, 2010 at 10:35 AM
    #13
    AriZonaD54

    AriZonaD54 BANNED in 49 states...

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2009
    Member:
    #21108
    Messages:
    2,490
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Andrew
    Valley of the Sun
    I'm split on this issue.

    I wouldn't run them personally. But, I don't see them being an issue for truck users.

    On the track however, I have seen many spacers crack and drop plate under speed, load and hard approaches. It's pretty scary.

    There are many that haven't had problems, but I just wouldn't risk it. My $0.02
     
  14. Apr 4, 2010 at 10:43 AM
    #14
    Brunes

    Brunes abides.

    Joined:
    May 31, 2008
    Member:
    #7011
    Messages:
    17,641
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rotorhead
    DC or New Jersey - Depends on the day....
    Vehicle:
    08 Red/Graphite and Satin Black
    Inside: Tint, Wet Okole 1/2 Piped Red/Black Covers, Black Weathertech Digital Fit Mats, URD Short Throw w/ TWM Weighted Knob, USA Spec iPod adapter. Outside: 4300K Retro w/ Angel Eyes and Red Shrouds, 5000K Blazer Fog Light Retrofit, Debadge, Bed Locking Handle, Satin Black Rims Performance: TRD/Steigmeier Blower w/ 2.7 Pulley. 668 Injectors and 320 LPH AEM Fuel pump. URD UCON and 7th Injector. DTLT Headers, URD Y-Pipe, Wicked Flow Muffler. Suspension: Both: OME Shocks Front: 886X's and TC UCAs Rear: Dakars Armor: Relentless Front Bumper Relentless High Clearance Rear w/ Tire/Rotopax Swing Out Relentless Front, Mid, and TCase skids BAMF Diff Skid Recovery and Spares: Fullsize Spare Tire 2x2 gal Rotopax 1x1 gal Rotopax 1x1 gal Water Rotopax Warn 9.5XP-S Winch Hi-Lift Extreme 60" Ironman Off-Road Recovery Kit
    I see a lot of conjecture here but nothing to back that stuff up...Just cause someone tells you something doesn't mean it's the truth.

    Based on physics- Spacers introduce a minute moment into the system that wasn't there initially so you might have issues with the wheel bearings- but it's not common if they are installed correctly.

    Based on mechanics- The spacers that use the hub lugs are more dangerous because you distribute the forces on the wheel/hub assembly across less stud area and less threads-leading to a higher likelihood of failure. Spidertrax use a separate set of lugs on the spacers so the spacer bolts to the hub and the wheel to the spacer. My dealership has rotated my tires twice and even checked the torques on the lugnuts for the spacers for me...No issues. Not saying that you won't have problems tho.

    Based on experiences-I've wheeled the shit outta truck and driven a LOT of highway/city miles since I put the spidertrax adapters on without an issues. Lugs are plenty tight and I have no issues with alignment or wobbles or anything.
     
  15. Apr 4, 2010 at 4:56 PM
    #15
    jmed99

    jmed99 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2009
    Member:
    #12708
    Messages:
    681
    Gender:
    Male
    SC
    Vehicle:
    09 DC PreRunner TRD OR
    Thanks! That says it all...I'm not going to use spacers. All it takes is 1 person that knows what they are talking about to say they wouldn't run them to convince me. They may be safe 99% of the time...I'm going to make damn sure I'm not in the 1% category.

    Thanks to everyone for helping me out here! :D
     
  16. Apr 4, 2010 at 8:18 PM
    #16
    nvdeserted

    nvdeserted Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2008
    Member:
    #11062
    Messages:
    1,305
    Gender:
    Male
    Reno, NV
    Vehicle:
    2009 Tacoma TRD OR Access Cab
    Electric Dynolock tailgate, TrailGear Slides, , 285/75-16 Yoko Geolanders on Wheelers Type B, SAW 2.0 front and back, Camburg b/j UCA, 1.5" AAL, Ubolt flip, ARB bump.
    Yeah, the hub-centric Spidertraxx are plenty safe on a Tacoma.
     
  17. Apr 4, 2010 at 8:21 PM
    #17
    kinkrider101

    kinkrider101 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2009
    Member:
    #23497
    Messages:
    2,693
    Gender:
    Male
    santa barbara
    Vehicle:
    2007 cummins/2007 tacoma
    wheels and tires
    i have them, no issues here.
     
  18. Apr 4, 2010 at 8:26 PM
    #18
    Andrew H

    Andrew H What is this "search" you speak of?

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2008
    Member:
    #10545
    Messages:
    4,281
    Gender:
    Male
    Dirty Tucson
    Vehicle:
    2010DCSB4X4TRDORMGM
    See build thread.

    I don't know man that top quote seems pretty informative. Guess the census is if you do get wheel spacers be sure to get the Spidertraxx.
     
  19. Apr 4, 2010 at 8:46 PM
    #19
    chris4x4

    chris4x4 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. Moderator

    Joined:
    May 8, 2008
    Member:
    #6497
    Messages:
    106,148
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    FlimFlubberJAM
    Tenoe, AZ
    Vehicle:
    2013 Rubicon Unlimited,
    4.10 gears, sliders, and lots of buttons.
    Brunes is correct in that the spacers put an increased load on the hub bearings. Just as much as a wheel with 1.25" less Back spacing. Weather this affects the bearings and to what degree, has yet to be tested. I have heard of too many people who have run spacers (different brands), and who have had premature bearing failure. Weather this had been a failure due to manufacturing of the bearings, or the increased loading on the bearings, I dont know. However, you dont find too many people who dont run the spacers, report hub bearing failures. Thats why I dont run them.
     
  20. Apr 4, 2010 at 8:48 PM
    #20
    rab89

    rab89 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2009
    Member:
    #12578
    Messages:
    5,467
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ross
    Kelowna b.c canada
    Vehicle:
    2012 DCLB
    Grillcraft mx black upper and lower BHLM with Gloss black 265 70 17 bfg a/t center console light mini mag mounted in center console debadged bed lights 35W 5000k HID's
    I've had them on my 1st gen for almost 2 years, I had an axle seal go, but I think that was unrelated.
     
To Top