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Arizona CCW

Discussion in 'Arizona' started by Sido, Oct 7, 2013.

  1. Oct 9, 2013 at 11:15 PM
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    TheRedHorseman

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    Wondering what the hell I just stepped in....
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    I was under the impression that the resident only carry thing was case law. I'll see if I can dig anything up.
     
  2. Oct 9, 2013 at 11:30 PM
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    I've seen references to "Resident over 21" on a few sites including Wikipedia.
    The NRA site does not reference "Resident"
    Likewise, Handgunlaw.us
    http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/arizona.pdf
    Says "Anyone" in their summary. The legal sections quoted do not reference permitless carry... only permitted-carry in a business.

    http://www.gunlaws.com/agogRL.htm
    Specifically states "Resident or not"

    Actual state law
    http://www.azleg.state.az.us/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/ars/13/03112.htm&Title=13&DocType=ARS
    References resident of AZ or Citizen of the US, but this statute references only issuance of a permit.

    Here's the DPS faq
    http://www.azdps.gov/Services/Concealed_Weapons/Questions/
    I'm not seeing any restrictions there.
     
  3. Oct 10, 2013 at 10:20 AM
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    Maybe it changed, maybe it's not written where you read it. What I stated is what I read on an Arizona government site several months ago while planning my trip there. It specified resident and reciprocal law. I also asked my brother who has been up on the gun laws and challenging them for many years there and he confirmed what I'd read almost verbatim. I asked a cop and got the same, but was followed with 'I wouldn't site you for carrying, but if you use it then you'll have to answer to the written law'. Given the direction Az headed with their carry law I wouldn't be surprised if they did away with 'resident', but I would caution against taking the law from anything other than Az directly; hopefully it's clear cut with no need to interpret. Gun sites and us forum people get it wrong all the time, as do attorneys, cops, etc.

    Their site was fun to read, they even spell out the size and type of molotov cocktail one can't legally carry right down to the flash point temperature of the liquid. I don't think they call it a molotov, but give a precise description of what it is.
     
  4. Oct 10, 2013 at 8:05 PM
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  5. Oct 10, 2013 at 9:13 PM
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    Either way, it is easy enough to get an AZ non-resident permit, which eliminates any question of legality AND provides an exemption from the Federal GFSZ statute, which a California permit does not provide in any state other than California.
     
  6. Oct 12, 2013 at 12:55 PM
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    OH-MAN

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    I did a Utah permit with John and allready had a CCW before I met John.
    I have taken some of the pistol classes since.
    Great person and he is a MCSO officer so he is very up to date on his classes.

    http://www.azccwclasses.com/
     
  7. Oct 12, 2013 at 1:24 PM
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    I have a few guns I bought at gun shows (no paperwork). I am from West Virginia and am not sure I can legally conceal carry them. Don't want to lose them and end up in jail for possession of stolen property either.
     
  8. Oct 12, 2013 at 2:39 PM
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    Good thing to know.
    The Police will only run a number check if you bring it to them, not by phone. So if you get pulled over they will ask if you have any weapons, you answer yes and they will borrow it, run the serial # and return it to you if it is not reported stolen usually unloaded and in a bag.

    Now if it does pop up stolen things get interesting! No you do not get to keep it and they will be interested in how, whom, and where you aquired it from.
     
  9. Oct 12, 2013 at 2:41 PM
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    I have a good friend who is also a State Trooper. I think I should let him check them out.
     
  10. Oct 12, 2013 at 9:25 PM
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    Good idea, worst case you lose a couple firearms.
     
  11. Oct 13, 2013 at 9:42 AM
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    OP, if you're still interested in taking a CCW class, I would recommend John at Black Wolf Defense.
     
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