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Auto vs Manual which one is stronger?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by jtgroce, Apr 21, 2012.

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Auto or Manual which is more reliable?

  1. Auto

    550 vote(s)
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  2. Manual

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    48.6%
  1. Apr 25, 2012 at 5:43 PM
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    92LandCruiser

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  2. Apr 25, 2012 at 5:49 PM
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    The manual trans in these trucks had some trouble in the 05's and very early 06's with shift forks taking a shit. You can read about one such rebuild caused by this problem here: The nice thing about manual trannies is that they're relatively easy to rebuild, compared to autos.

    That said, since late '06 ToMoCo changed the construction of some of the components and I'd now call the two transmissions equal in terms of durability.
     
  3. Apr 25, 2012 at 6:02 PM
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    I would say that they are pretty close these days, in reliability and stregnth. The manual takes more skill to drive, and is easier to repair. The auto is easier to drive, but has more moving parts, requires more specialized tools to repair, damages more components when it fails, and is more expensive to rebuild. So, I will keep on driving my manuals. I like to hold on to my money. Everything fails after the warranty anyways.
     
  4. Apr 25, 2012 at 6:06 PM
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    It's the planetary out of the t-case......which is the same exact spline count and size as the output shaft in the tranny....;)
     
  5. Apr 25, 2012 at 6:09 PM
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    Thats not a very accurate way to decide which tranny is stronger.
     
  6. Apr 25, 2012 at 6:20 PM
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  7. Apr 25, 2012 at 6:21 PM
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    Speaking of trannies I love trannies!
     
  8. Apr 25, 2012 at 9:15 PM
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  9. Apr 25, 2012 at 9:20 PM
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    chris4x4 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. Moderator

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    LOL!! Two trannys in....wait....nevermind.
     
  10. Apr 25, 2012 at 9:39 PM
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  11. Apr 25, 2012 at 10:24 PM
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    An auto trans has multiple wet clutch packs similar to your motorcycle clutch and friction bands. That is how it switches between gears. When you come to a stop the torque converter uncouples for the most part and allows the turbine and pump to spin freely. This is why there is the stall rating on torque converters, this is the speed at which it has the greatest coupling force. But they never lock 100 percent. That is why there is another clutch in the torque converter that locks it for better efficiency. An auto can go bad really quick if overheated or incorrectly shifted ( like a stuck shift solenoid) typically the clutch packs burn up. Both stick and manual transmissions are fairly strong as long as they are properly maintained or have no failures. But the automatic would probably be the most expensive to fix and most complicated to fix.
     
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    Where do you run a cooler from on an auto tranny?
     
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    I HATE changing gears in 4low. Also, I think F1 cars run automatics, Coke and Pepsi, even some of the newer UPS rigs run autos.
     
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    I waited a long time To find a 6spd I wanted. I enjoy every aspect of it and really like feeling connected to the truck.
    My daughters are learning to drive now and I am insisting they learn to drive my truck too.
    Straight drives are becoming a lost art. I want them prepared to drive anything.

    Oh and BTW. While it sucks to lose a clutch in BF nowhere, Ive taught my daughter how to push start it in case of a low battery.
    Try to do that with your slush box.

    Yes a downside of auto. But I run nothing but optima red top, and when my starter makes noise (of the breaking variety) it is replaced. People don't realize if your battery is too dead to support FI, still not going to start; bump or otherwise.
     
  17. Apr 26, 2012 at 12:22 PM
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    On the output line from the transmission. The one inside the radiator regulates the temp of the fluid in this configuration. This way, it reaches operating temp faster. Putting on the return line shoud only be done on a "desert only" vehicle.
     
  18. Apr 26, 2012 at 12:27 PM
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    Usually the starter will fail before the FI, since the starter draws many more amps than the pump. Also, residual fuel pressure combined with a partail field on the alternator should be plenty to start a normally driven manual.
    A totally dead battery? Auto/manual=screwed without a jump.
     
  19. Apr 27, 2012 at 4:19 AM
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    I prefer the manual trans, as it seems to have a bit more take off (without accelerating hard) than an auto transmission.

    I like to keep my shifting skills sharp, as getting a rental car with an auto trans (at least) doubles the cost in Ireland. One does not need to be fighting jet lag, driving on the left side, AND a manual trans. Not to worry, as the first 2 are old hat after the first holiday.
     
  20. Apr 27, 2012 at 5:57 AM
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    No, but computer controlled. Multi disc clutch packs long before it was fashionable. Now you can get most sportscars that way, and diesel VWs for that matter.
     

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