1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Bad Vibrations after Carrier Bearing and 3 ujoints replacement? Should I go 1 piece

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by sikTacos, Jul 14, 2020.

  1. Jul 14, 2020 at 11:14 AM
    #1
    sikTacos

    sikTacos [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2017
    Member:
    #210743
    Messages:
    194
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Eric
    SoCal
    Vehicle:
    2nd Gen Tacoma
    Just like the title states, I have a 2011 DCLB 4x4 - 116k miles
    BTW I do have a 2.75 lift in front (5100's w887 and AAL in the rear) ECGS was also completed during driveshaft maintenance.

    @Speed Freek recently helped me out and replaced my CB since it was pretty bad. We went ahead and replaced 3 of the ujoints from the Trans to the rear shaft as well.

    However I'm getting some pretty bad vibrations between 50-70mph after the replacement and I'm wondering if it could relate to driveshaft needing balance or axle shims needed or the pinon angle is wrong? I had some minor vibs before the installation but it definitely got worst after the replacement.

    3 of the DANA Spicer 513301X - Ujoints
    https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=6130827&cc=1447055&jsn=8

    1 of the DANA Spicer 5002007 - Carrier Bearing
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/DANA-Spicer-Drive-Shaft-Center-Support-Bearing-Assembly-for-09-15-Toyota-Tacoma/233401698226?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

    I've been reading about Tom Woods 1 piece driveshaft, what is everyone opinions on those? Pro/Cons? Double Cardan joints?

    I'm just thinking to myself, why did i even mess around with the DS......:mad: that money i spent to repair it could've went to the TW one piece?

    Everything was reinstalled correctly and the markings was followed. Any Ideas?
     
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2020
  2. Jul 14, 2020 at 11:17 AM
    #2
    TuRDLYFE

    TuRDLYFE Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2019
    Member:
    #310230
    Messages:
    1,293
    An over-taxed town, county, and state
    Vehicle:
    2020 AG TRD Pro 6MT
    Do the front and rear yokes line up?
     
  3. Jul 14, 2020 at 11:34 AM
    #3
    sikTacos

    sikTacos [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2017
    Member:
    #210743
    Messages:
    194
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Eric
    SoCal
    Vehicle:
    2nd Gen Tacoma
    I want to say yes but I'm a complete noob when it comes to DS. Hopefully the pictures help verify?

    We also only removed the driveshaft from the transfer case to the rear axle. Didn't touch the front one. If that helps any.

    IMG_2402.jpg
    IMG_2403.jpg
    IMG_2405.jpg
     
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2020
  4. Jul 14, 2020 at 12:10 PM
    #4
    TuRDLYFE

    TuRDLYFE Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2019
    Member:
    #310230
    Messages:
    1,293
    An over-taxed town, county, and state
    Vehicle:
    2020 AG TRD Pro 6MT
    If you're looking from the back of the truck, eyes even with the driveshaft, are all of those zerk fittings at the roughly 7 o'clock position?
     
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2020
    sikTacos [OP] likes this.
  5. Jul 14, 2020 at 12:26 PM
    #5
    sikTacos

    sikTacos [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2017
    Member:
    #210743
    Messages:
    194
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Eric
    SoCal
    Vehicle:
    2nd Gen Tacoma
    Yeah it does. Picture below with the red markings to help.

    Are you referring to the frontend DS as well?

    IMG_2407.jpg
     
  6. Jul 14, 2020 at 12:33 PM
    #6
    TuRDLYFE

    TuRDLYFE Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2019
    Member:
    #310230
    Messages:
    1,293
    An over-taxed town, county, and state
    Vehicle:
    2020 AG TRD Pro 6MT
    Based off of that, it certainly seems to me that the carrier isn't properly aligned. Looks like the prep work was done well. Only other concern is that those U-Joints appear to be non-OEM and could be part of the problem. I would say if a realign of the carrier is fruitless, remove and replace the U-Joints with Genuine Toyota P/N 04371-04030.
     
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2020
  7. Jul 14, 2020 at 12:39 PM
    #7
    sikTacos

    sikTacos [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2017
    Member:
    #210743
    Messages:
    194
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Eric
    SoCal
    Vehicle:
    2nd Gen Tacoma
    I went with what was recommended on TW forum after searching a bit. It was OEM:

    3 of the DANA Spicer 513301X - Ujoints

    1 of the DANA Spicer 5002007 - Carrier Bearing
     
    B1ackstar likes this.
  8. Jul 14, 2020 at 12:43 PM
    #8
    TuRDLYFE

    TuRDLYFE Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2019
    Member:
    #310230
    Messages:
    1,293
    An over-taxed town, county, and state
    Vehicle:
    2020 AG TRD Pro 6MT
    OEM is different from Toyota branded. I did a big writeup about it, but short story is that just because you may have purchased a part from the OEM doesn't mean you got the same part. Toyota has quality control standards above and beyond what a manufacturer self-imposes. Those are listed as an "OE replacement," not as Toyota Genuine or even OEM.
     
    Island Cruiser likes this.
  9. Jul 14, 2020 at 12:47 PM
    #9
    sikTacos

    sikTacos [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2017
    Member:
    #210743
    Messages:
    194
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Eric
    SoCal
    Vehicle:
    2nd Gen Tacoma
    So realistically it could be that the CB is not aligned properly or it's not the correct CB?

    https://parts.tustintoyota.com/p/To...xXWaOkha9BzvdE0GVyhQo5JxoDeL1y5BoCM_EQAvD_BwE

    $175 seems kinda steep for OEM in my opinion. Thoughts on just using that money for a Tom Woods 1 piece and just get rid of the carrier bearing completely?
     
  10. Jul 14, 2020 at 12:48 PM
    #10
    TuRDLYFE

    TuRDLYFE Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2019
    Member:
    #310230
    Messages:
    1,293
    An over-taxed town, county, and state
    Vehicle:
    2020 AG TRD Pro 6MT
    Correct. A lot of people like one piece, but they come with their own fair share of problems depending on how long you intend to own the truck. The two piece and carrier bearing has a purpose. It unloads the transfer shaft and also provides greater ground clearance. Do you want those forces going into a $200 sacrificial part or into the transfer case (replacement of genuine Toyota case alone costs over $3,472)? My two cents...
     
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2020
    ramonortiz55 and sikTacos [OP] like this.
  11. Jul 14, 2020 at 1:09 PM
    #11
    Crosis

    Crosis Tertiary adjunct to unimatrix 01

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2012
    Member:
    #88629
    Messages:
    2,390
    Gender:
    Male
    Cape Breton Island Nova Scotia
    Vehicle:
    09 Tacoma 4x4 TRD Off Road
    Toyota should be ashamed to charge as much as they do for ujoints.
     
    sikTacos [OP] likes this.
  12. Jul 14, 2020 at 1:26 PM
    #12
    gotoman1969

    gotoman1969 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2018
    Member:
    #254966
    Messages:
    4,450
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Steve
    San Antonio, TX United States
    Vehicle:
    2015 Silver Tacoma PreRunner
    3" ToyTec coilovers, JBA UCA's, Bilstein 5100's
    Don’t believe Tom woods makes or will make a one piece for the dclb.
     
    ardrummer292 likes this.
  13. Jul 14, 2020 at 1:47 PM
    #13
    dk_crew

    dk_crew Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2019
    Member:
    #293798
    Messages:
    318
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dave
    Austin, TX
    Vehicle:
    2005 Tacoma 4x4
    Bilstein 5100s with 2" HS Coils and AAL 265/75/16 BFG KO2 Dirt King UCAs
    have you measured the angles and tried to adjust the CB? in my case i had startup shudder and basically went through a bunch of trial and error with the drive angles -- flipping the CB, dropping the CB, etc. so i'd first measure the angles and post them and i bet you'll get some recommendations -- and once measured, see if you can get the 2 shafts between 0 and 1 degree by shimming the CB with some washers. once you get it, you could get more durable spacers in there. this post has a good diagram to use as a guide: https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...vibration-for-free.153050/page-2#post-3141741
     
    sikTacos [OP] likes this.
  14. Jul 14, 2020 at 1:48 PM
    #14
    sikTacos

    sikTacos [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2017
    Member:
    #210743
    Messages:
    194
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Eric
    SoCal
    Vehicle:
    2nd Gen Tacoma
    You're right they don't. My DCLB from transfer to differential is 80.5 inches and the maximum length they can do is 72-75 inch per their website/phone call.

    What now......
     
  15. Jul 14, 2020 at 1:51 PM
    #15
    gotoman1969

    gotoman1969 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2018
    Member:
    #254966
    Messages:
    4,450
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Steve
    San Antonio, TX United States
    Vehicle:
    2015 Silver Tacoma PreRunner
    3" ToyTec coilovers, JBA UCA's, Bilstein 5100's
    The CB is mounted correctly? I believe there is a front and back if I remember correctly.
     
  16. Jul 14, 2020 at 1:55 PM
    #16
    mgord

    mgord Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2009
    Member:
    #12563
    Messages:
    217
    Gender:
    Male
    Harrisburg, PA
    Vehicle:
    07 TRD
    K&N, Leaf Springs, Home Built Camper
    Umm.... Yeah... I used the same parts - Dana U-Joints and Spicer CB and I have no issues.
     
    sikTacos [OP] likes this.
  17. Jul 14, 2020 at 1:59 PM
    #17
    Musubi3

    Musubi3 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2016
    Member:
    #187108
    Messages:
    1,172
    Gender:
    Male
    Big Island
    Vehicle:
    2014 Tacoma DC 4x4 TRD Off Road
    Also, unless you cut or remove the carrier bearing cross member, I'd be concerned with the TW driveshaft hitting that member if loaded up and hitting bumps. I'd stick with a two piece whether OEM or aftermarket.
     
  18. Jul 14, 2020 at 2:16 PM
    #18
    sikTacos

    sikTacos [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2017
    Member:
    #210743
    Messages:
    194
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Eric
    SoCal
    Vehicle:
    2nd Gen Tacoma
    I just went underneath the vehicle again and removed the 14mm bolts that hold the carrier bearing.

    In my original photos above the carrier bearing "arrows" is on top of the DS.

    I flipped it 180 and now the arrows are pointing towards the transfer case.

    Can someone send a picture of how your carrier bearing looks? Wanted to see if this 180 flip is the right way or not.

    IMG_2411.jpg
     
  19. Jul 14, 2020 at 2:18 PM
    #19
    sikTacos

    sikTacos [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2017
    Member:
    #210743
    Messages:
    194
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Eric
    SoCal
    Vehicle:
    2nd Gen Tacoma
    I don't have a degree angle tool on hand but I will definitely try this out. (Any recommendation on a tool? I have a harbor freight nearby that i can pick one up.
    https://www.harborfreight.com/search?q=angle finder

    I haven't tried Geometry in 12 years LOL
     
    dk_crew likes this.
  20. Jul 14, 2020 at 2:43 PM
    #20
    gotoman1969

    gotoman1969 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2018
    Member:
    #254966
    Messages:
    4,450
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Steve
    San Antonio, TX United States
    Vehicle:
    2015 Silver Tacoma PreRunner
    3" ToyTec coilovers, JBA UCA's, Bilstein 5100's
    Correct. The arrows should be visible and pointing to the front of the truck.
     
    HolycityTaco likes this.

Products Discussed in

To Top