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BFGoodrich A/T KO vs Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by cranky, Apr 10, 2009.

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Which tires?

  1. BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO

    609 vote(s)
    78.0%
  2. Goodyear Wrangler SilentArmor

    113 vote(s)
    14.5%
  3. Other (post in thread)

    59 vote(s)
    7.6%
  1. Jul 19, 2013 at 3:27 PM
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    teneighty

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    Those things suck sweaty balls... Had them on an old truck of mine. Worst tires I've had on a vehicle. We also run them on our SUV's at work... Complete junk
     
  2. Aug 30, 2013 at 4:10 PM
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    I worked at Goodyear for almost two year, I had a set of Duratracs 285/60/20, my mom put on a set of Goodyear Fortera Silent Armor. We only bought tires from Goodyear only because of my employee discount. But both tires proved to be a big waste of money, Duratacs faded just over a year and the Fortera didn't last long either. I started off as general service tech, and worked my way up to a general maintenance tech. Goodyear has a contract with most law enforcement agency's and we put tires on local sheriff, local PD's, Florida Wild Patrol, and some state troopers that were in the area. We would supply the Silent Armors for FWC and majority of the officers hated the tires, always complaining, coming to the store and making us try and fix the problem or replace the tire with new ones. Local sheriff deputies would come in and ask for tire quotes and ask not to give a price for the Silent Armors cause they have heard or experienced how bad the tire are. All in all I would not recommend things tires.

    You can't go bad with a Bfgoodrich. An extremely good tire.
     
  3. Sep 1, 2013 at 7:04 PM
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    cooper st maxx, dick cepek fc 2...
     
  4. Sep 6, 2013 at 11:52 AM
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    BFGR! Hands down!:cool::)
     
  5. Oct 11, 2013 at 12:27 PM
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    I have owned both the Silent Armor hands down on road for a quiet smooth ride it was like night and day when I replaced my BFGs, almost like a new truck and suspension difference. The BFGs had a very harsh ride in a single cab pre runner, I think it was due to a combination of things that caused it, light truck+larger than stock tires, high load range and steel belts. But I think the truck weight caused most of it.

    The BFGs are awesome tires don't get me wrong, I replaced mine after 80k+ miles after I found a chunk of metal (2x3" chunk) I had ran over at some point it was pretty much completely imbedded in the tire when I pulled it out, it didn't even phase the tire and it held pressure with no leaks what so ever, I was pretty impressed. My biggest turn off with them like I said was the extremely harsh loud ride on the truck.

    The silent armors have an awesome ride on the road but lower load rating and a milder tread pattern, mine came with a tow warranty if I ever got stuck off-roading in them Goodyear would send a tow truck for free, I thought it was ridiculous so I never read the fine print on that, and I never got stuck. I only had them for about 20k miles before I sold the truck so can't comment on long term wear or tread life.
     
  6. Oct 11, 2013 at 12:35 PM
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    You don't want to buy the Silent Armors anyway; they're being discontinued and replaced by the Wrangler AT Adventure.
     
  7. Oct 12, 2013 at 4:16 AM
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    Really like my GYSA's. Have 40,000 miles on them in a year and a half. Maybe half the tread, if that, is worn away, can see getting easy 80,000 miles out of these. 275/70r/17's great in sand and on road, 'bout all I have to run on except deep, DEEP mud, so no.
    Get this tire in a LT size, so your not running a car tire on a truck...
     
  8. Oct 12, 2013 at 4:38 AM
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  9. Oct 12, 2013 at 10:11 PM
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    There is a recall for some sizes of the silent armor
    But I have not seen a complete discontinue on making the tire.
    I have a set of the PRO Grade tires and they run just fine, ya just gotta remember that when you air down you get that wishy washy feeling going around corners. You get used to it, I rather run the silent armor than any other tire in wet slimy conditions then any other tire.

    Why would you run silent armor in south FL, I'd run something for wet traction, their is 98 percent pavement/tarmac and a bit of off roading other than that you need a air boat.
     
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  10. Oct 13, 2013 at 1:46 PM
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    I work for a tire wholesaler; Goodyear gave us an alert a couple of months ago that they were discontinuing the majority of the Silent Armor sizes, because they were rolling out the new Wrangler All Terrain Adventure. It's a bummer, because the SA's are one of our more popular GY products.
     
  11. Oct 16, 2013 at 8:38 PM
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    Were they going to keep the pro grade series?
    Wonder what the problem was? Too much side wall flex...
    Hope that the new tire is better..
     
  12. Oct 17, 2013 at 5:01 AM
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    From what they've told us, they're keeping it (for now) in a couple of pretty limited sizes. Not sure which ones they're keeping or not, or whether they're the pro-grade models.

    I DO know that the new AT Adventure does come with the Pro Grade designation on the LT versions. Has an extra layer of Kevlar and more steel in the belts.

    I'm not sure that they were replacing it because there was a problem with the tire; Goodyear has this annoying habit of "refreshing" their product lineup every so often, and they've had the Silent Armor for 10 years or so. Same thing with their Assurance line of passenger car tires; they just introduced a new Tripletred last year, even though there wasn't anything 'wrong' per se with the old Tripletred. They just put some more technology into the new tire.

    The AT Adventure has a different rubber compound than the old SA's, has a different Kevlar formula, and a different tread design. Apparently they've got better traction in snow, rain, and ice. They also are supposed to be quieter on the road. One of the complaints we used to get with the old SA's was that they had a tendency to get noisy once they got worn about 1/2 way, so hopefully GY's addressed that with the new tire.
     
  13. Oct 18, 2013 at 10:30 AM
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    Tell Goodyear to make the duratrac in a 275/70/17!!

    No loss with the silent armors... Those things were terrible.
     
  14. Oct 18, 2013 at 11:22 AM
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    That's a dead size. Nobody really builds much in a 275/70R17 anymore. Kind of like expecting the big tire manufacturers to start making new tires in 30x9.50's again.
     
  15. Oct 18, 2013 at 2:48 PM
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    BFG AT's, Hancook ATM's and Cooper A/T 3. Good tires but I'd like the duratrac and the 275/70 seems to be the perfect fit.
     
  16. Oct 20, 2013 at 6:41 PM
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    It is important to note that the BFGs only come in LT so they are heavier and require much higher pressures where the Silent Armors can be found in P rated sizes. Make sure you understand the difference before you buy a much heavier tire just because they look cooler. Only you know what you really need.
     
  17. Oct 30, 2013 at 8:31 AM
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  18. Oct 30, 2013 at 9:14 AM
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    Been doing some research for tires. Due to my remote location, I must do it all online, however yesterday I got to a larger town and stopped in at a tire store. At the time the Cooper AT3's were at the top of my list, but the guy at the store recommended the BF Goodrich All-Terrain T/A KO as the best AT tire they have sold for a good number of years. He had one in the showroom, and I got to look at some AT3's that had just been installed on a customers car and watch him drive off. They were quiet.

    In person the AT3's looked too aggressive and the BF Goodrich All-Terrain T/A KO’s didn’t look aggressive enough. For those with experience with both, how does each tire wear and does either tire get noisier with age?

    My stock tires are 245/75/16 and I’m considering going with 265/70/16. Wondering how the extra width of the 265/70's affect highway handling.
     
  19. Oct 31, 2013 at 6:54 PM
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    I know this is few years old but to anyone else, Ive had both and the Goodyears are quieter and last longer in my experience both being 6 ply in same sizes. The Silent armors rode better and felt more secure in snow living in northern nevada we get good snow falls. So I would go with the Goodyears in a heartbeat when the time comes
     
  20. Nov 1, 2013 at 9:22 AM
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    Wow, I couldn't disagree more... I find it hard to believe that you thought they were good in the snow.

    I've posted in a few different threads in regard to the silent armors. I too have had both. I drive close to 500 miles a week, more in the winter on the silent armors. We run them on our SUV's at work. I had them on an old truck of mine (full size dodge) and got rid of them within close to 5k. I can't stand these tires in the snow! They really scare me and I've been trying to get them to change to a different tire at work(Cheapest on bid). They don't clear well. There isn't enough area between treads. They seem to hydroplane on water. In the snow they just fill up and basically become slicks! I think we have to change them every 20-30k as well at work, seems like we are always getting new tires because of no tread left.

    One plus is I guess they are quieter...

    Apparently they have discontinued them anyway and the replacement tire does seem to have a much better tread pattern.
     
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