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Bilstein 6112

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by KnoxTac0713, Mar 15, 2016.

  1. Feb 15, 2020 at 5:39 AM
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    Sixthelement

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    Not stiff, but with the weight and higher springs I think its hard on the 6112s. Truck is very heavy, getting current weight today.
    I really need a 650lb on the 5th notch. That'd be perfect.
     
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  2. Feb 15, 2020 at 2:40 PM
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    Here is my similar setup. Finally got the bilstein 650's installed along with RXT leafs on the second setting. Coils are set on the 4th notch up front.
    [​IMG]
     
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  3. Feb 15, 2020 at 2:53 PM
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    Pretty much the little brother of mine, same color and year only mines a dclb. Very jealous of your scs ray 10's though....
     
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  4. Feb 15, 2020 at 2:55 PM
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    toucan Stupid truck

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    I like em too. Hard to get ahold of though! Its kind of a bad pic. Cant see the front or rear bumpers. Relentless Sting Ray up front, ATH standard i the back.
     
  5. Feb 15, 2020 at 3:12 PM
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    I as well am going to go with ATH for my rear but I'm going for the new high clearance one.
     
  6. Feb 16, 2020 at 6:42 AM
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    Hey guys. Looking for opinions how these feel ON the pavement. I have a TRD Sport which I'm pretty sure has a stiffer ride than the Off-Road. I take it out on the trails a few times a year and I would like shocks that do a better job soaking up the bumps; some of the fire roads that leads to the trails have killer washboards. These seem like the setup to go. But how do they handle on the pavement? This truck is my daily, and over potholes, bad roads (lots of those where I live), and freeway expansion joints, will these be MORE or LESS punishing than the stock setup? Thanks!
     
  7. Feb 16, 2020 at 6:59 AM
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    My opinion is they handle similar to the stock OR suspension on road but no brake dive issues. So they are softer than the sport suspension and absorb bumps better.
     
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  8. Feb 16, 2020 at 7:20 AM
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    In my 2013 dclb, it was a hell of a lot better than my stock sport bilstein's. Less punishing in my opinion. I felt the difference right away. I would have zero question doing it all over again.
     
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  9. Feb 16, 2020 at 9:47 AM
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    Thanks guys!
     
  10. Feb 16, 2020 at 10:35 AM
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    Follow-up question, do I need upper control arms, at least right away? Truck only has 30k. What would you go with?
     
  11. Feb 16, 2020 at 10:46 AM
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    Probably not. You might not ever need them at all.
     
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  12. Feb 16, 2020 at 11:36 AM
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    It really depends on how far up you are going. Generally anything more than 2", the stock UCA should be replaced for caster and camber purposes but it isn't 100% necessary. I did it at the time of install because you have everything taken apart anyway and you have to get it aligned anyway afterwards. You don't want to pay for 2 alignments. I Highly recommend JBA, I have them on my rig and love them. Some go with SPC, total chaos, freedom, or icon. IMO, JBA gives you the best for the price.
     
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  13. Feb 16, 2020 at 2:33 PM
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    On my 2019 OR this was a step up in off road and highway. It’s a bit stiffer at low speeds but not harsh at all and once you get up a little speed on rougher stuff it really soaks up the bumps.

     
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  14. Feb 17, 2020 at 2:15 PM
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    Hey all,
    Just got some eibach 650# in the mail. I'm going to get them installed soon but I was hoping for some advice to guide my local shop (Hazzard Fab Worx).
    Here is my current setup;
    Bilstein 6112's in the front set to 5/4
    SPC UCA's
    Bilstein 5160's in the back with Dakar heavy leaf pack
    Fuel mavericks with 285/70/17 toyo M/T's
    CMC and trim (I don't want to bash the welds in, particularly because others haven't had to to fit these tires)

    My issue is that my tires STILL rub even after CMC and trimming. It's driving me crazy and it's been like this for almost a year and I've basically built the truck around it trying to address it. I was told at 4wp that I need to get rims that have a reduced amount of offset. I don't exactly have the cash right now for some method 305NV's particularly if they aren't going to fix the issue. I have no bumper, armor, or any real extra weight in the front. I plan on getting a bumper and armor though in the not too distant future as well as some rock sliders though.

    Should I bring the springs to my shop and have them adjust my shocks? To what notch should I have them do it? I'm not looking for extra lift. I have a nice slight rake going on right now...
     
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  15. Feb 17, 2020 at 2:22 PM
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    You have a couple of different options. You can go with some spidertrax wheel spacers to bring your offset out, you can raise it up a notch to give yourself some more lift (if you want to add armor in the future it will bring it back down), you can add in the 650lb springs and keep it at the same notch's (your ride might be a little stiff) or you can get it re-aligned and have them adjust your caster to move your tire forward more.
     
  16. Feb 17, 2020 at 2:29 PM
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    Sorry, I may have mis-spoken about the wheels/tires. They poke out. From my research (I bought the truck with them on) they have a -12mm offset. I'm also rubbing the cab mount at full crank on reverse, and the front fender lip at partial turn on the fronts. rubbing all over...
     
  17. Feb 17, 2020 at 3:04 PM
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    Pinch welds and ultra cut cmc. No rubbing at full lock or aired down. Also ensure you bend back the fender mounting holes at the bottom as that stuck out further on my vehicle than any other part. Old pic before the pinch welds but they are stupid flat! Solved all my issues

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  18. Feb 17, 2020 at 4:53 PM
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    I dont currently have this suspension set up but, I am running 17x9 -12 offset with a 285/70/17 and have no rubbing during normal driving even in reverse at full lock.

    I would be willing to bet your caster is low and that's why you are rubbing. I rubbed really bad off road before I got my caster fixed.

    20200104_131623.jpg
     
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  19. Mar 5, 2020 at 9:40 AM
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    I am right on the edge of pulling the trigger on a set of 6112s and some K02s. I want the performance of the 6112/5160 combo and want to lift it about 1.5 in the front but I want to run the OEM UCA. I have read so many posts on clip position and the 1/4" spacer that my head is spinning! A lot of folks are saying that they are running these on the 4rth clip for the passenger side and the 5th clip for the drivers side. In addition to this, they are also running a 1/4" spacer on the Driver's side?! That seems like a lot of additional lift on the driver's side, no? Or is it that some folks are running the 4/5 clip postilion while others are running a 4/4 clip position and the 1/4" spacer on the DS?

    The rig is a 2020 DCSB 4x4 trd off road. The only additional weight comes from a set of RCI sliders.
     
  20. Mar 5, 2020 at 9:45 AM
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    skcihs

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    I'm running 4/5 no spacer and I have 1.5" lift on a 2019. 3 leaf AAL in the rear. It's really awesome, a bit firmer a lower speeds than stock but much more control at higher speeds than stock. Plush on the highway. I have duratracs and higher than 35psi the ride is more stiff than I'd like but down in the low 30's it's great.

     
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