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Bilstein 6112

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by KnoxTac0713, Mar 15, 2016.

  1. Jan 25, 2018 at 9:03 PM
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    What do yo have in the rear? AAL, full pack?
     
  2. Jan 25, 2018 at 9:45 PM
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    I just added the 650lb Eibach spring, jba UCAs, and 6/5 setting. 38.25" in the front from ground to fender and pretty much leveled the truck some how...hope the front settles down a bit. No side shots sorry it got to dark outside for a pic. Will update later with a pic.

    **Headstrong 3leaf prog AAL in the rear with overload out on 5160s. On 255/85r16 ST Maxx

    Before: 5/4 setting 37" ground to fender driver and 37.25" on the passenger
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    After
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    Original alignment sheet from the 5/4 setup
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    Current Alignment sheet
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    I drove 105 miles back home and I will say it's a far more superior ride than the 610 spring it comes with. I'm coming from an SSO slim line bumper, skid plate, and bamf grill though so my opinion will differ from others as far as weight. Stiffened up the ride where it needed to be compared to my previous setup.

    My suggestion is if you have a lot of weight up front I'd get a 650lb spring otherwise it will drop your front about 1/4" and if you had a winch probably 1/2" or more. Another suggestion is get an aftermarket UCA or make sure you get an alignment every month or so from firestone.

    MY original alignment sheet and my current alignment sheet was 4K miles apart from each other. Huge difference....MPG on the way to the shop was piss poor I forgot to calculate it but I was just above half tank...for a 105 mile trip. On the way back home I didn't even reach 3/4 tank I was way above that marking. I calculated 20mpg. That's me going 65mph 90% of the time and passing people when needed and dealing with hills

    As a note for mpg I was running 34psi all the way around. I think if did 32psi in the rear it could have been better imo. Also went to discount tire days before install to get tires balanced and rotated cuz they do it for free!!

    Will update with pics later!
     

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  3. Jan 25, 2018 at 9:50 PM
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    Post updated sorry pics were messed up
     
  4. Jan 26, 2018 at 11:24 PM
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    Are you guys running stock brake lines with this setup?

    Can someone recommend me some after market ones?

    Thanks
     
  5. Jan 27, 2018 at 7:33 AM
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  6. Jan 31, 2018 at 7:59 PM
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    What notch are you at? Looks great!
     
  7. Feb 1, 2018 at 1:33 PM
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    You dont need aftermarket brake lines. Stock work fine with these.
     
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  8. Feb 1, 2018 at 2:09 PM
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    so the Eibach 650lb coils gave you more lift than the 600s would have? i have a steel bumper and 6112's with the 600 coils.

    the 650 springs gave you an extra 1.25" of lift over the 600s? I'm probably going to get the 650s soon but not sure if i should leave it on the same notch that the 600s are on.
     
  9. Feb 1, 2018 at 3:53 PM
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    No, the 600lb spring that comes with the 6112, and eibach 650 and 700lb spring are all the same height 14". If anything it just won't make your lift drop. I gained lift cuz I went from the #5/4 clip to the #6/5 clip.
     
  10. Feb 1, 2018 at 5:47 PM
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    not exactly. Yes the springs are the same length but being that its a beefier spring the truck will sit higher on the same clip setting. So Yes you will get more lift going to 650 and even more going to 700. Exactly how much higher I couldn't tell you. Adding weight brings it back down proportionately.
     
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  11. Feb 1, 2018 at 6:31 PM
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    He asked specifically if the 650lb spring gave me a 1.25" lift vs using the 610lb. The answer still stands no as I moved up a clip.

    Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure if the spring is 14" in length regardless of it being 650 vs 700 the lift will be minimal, or really nothing at all.

    I'm speaking from a stock tacoma with that being said.

    Not being rude or anything towards ya bro :)
     
  12. Feb 1, 2018 at 7:15 PM
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    No worries its simple math. this is the part I was looking at. "so the Eibach 650lb coils gave you more lift than the 600s would have?" The answer to that is a definite YES? You also moved the clip position so that another variable, and referring to that there's no way moving one position would give you 1.25" but because you upgraded the spring it did? I say have him upgrade the spring but not change the clip or anything else up front and he will see more lift. I'd love to see how much and it would be a good reference for this thread. ;)
     
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  13. Feb 1, 2018 at 7:51 PM
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    I forgot I said I got a lot more lift that expected....lmao. Theoretically in my head it shouldnt happen due to it being the same length.

    I remember people saying in this thread people were more lift than expected from these 6112 setups. I forgot who but it was a blue taco on the 5/4 setting got close to 3" of lift.
     
  14. Feb 2, 2018 at 6:00 AM
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    I'm thinking about doing this, but also considering going up to the next notch with 650 coils. i want more lift and not sure if i will achieve enough at the same notch just because of the spring rate difference.
     
  15. Feb 2, 2018 at 7:53 AM
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    What clip # are you at? Also measure from the hub center to the fender on both sides. How much are you looking to lift it from where it is now?
     
  16. Feb 2, 2018 at 7:53 AM
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    do you know how much weight your bumper and skids are? and did you have any experience with the original springs before going to 650# springs?
     
  17. Feb 2, 2018 at 7:57 AM
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    3rd clip both sides, driver side is 21.5" passenger is about 22". looking for about 2" lift total
     
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  18. Feb 2, 2018 at 8:09 AM
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    Okay I just measured mine. I'm also at #3 clip position with the stock spring. It's roughly 22.5" just a tad lower on dr side. I have a 1/4" spacer on Dr side. The only difference is your added weight up front. Mines stock up front but a plate bumper out back which would raise the front if anything. I do have heavy sliders though. Anyhow I say you go ahead and move the Dr side to #4 and leave the Pass side at #3. Then add the 650 spring. I would guess you will see at least an inch more or 1.25" (if we go by ocoliver) on Dr side and 1/2 less on the Pass side. That will level it out too and we will see exactly what the spring itself does by measuring the pass side after.
     
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  19. Feb 2, 2018 at 8:23 AM
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    do you have any other pictures where you tied the spring to the coil bucket? looks kind of dangerous but less trouble than taking them off to adjust.
     
  20. Feb 2, 2018 at 8:24 AM
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    i will probably go this route, and report back with the numbers. Thanks for the advice.
     
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