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Bilstein 6112

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by KnoxTac0713, Mar 15, 2016.

  1. Feb 10, 2018 at 6:48 PM
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    The springs on the 6112 are 14" and so are the eibach 650/700. I haven't seen any other springs that will fit in 15"
     
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  2. Feb 10, 2018 at 6:52 PM
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  3. Feb 10, 2018 at 8:16 PM
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    So is there a 600# spring out there that allows you get max lift without using highest circlip? Adding leaf to my dakars+ thinking 6112s don't want too much rake and don't want to max adjustment. DCLB, nothing up front but alu skid
     
  4. Feb 10, 2018 at 8:22 PM
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    Don't believe there is...someone chip in if you know
     
  5. Feb 10, 2018 at 8:24 PM
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    3rd gen oem Takeoffs are reporting giving 2nd gens 1 inch lift. So can I get 3rd gen 6112s and use a higher / lower circlip? Hope this isn't a silly question. I don't want to use the highest circlip but want max lift to match Dakar + leaf without too much rake.
     
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  6. Feb 11, 2018 at 8:01 PM
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    Does maxing out the coilover lift potentially slightly compromise the performance ? (Less travel before springs come together?, length to travel?)) Are there 2 part #s for 6112s for 2nd and 3rd gens?
    3rd gen OEM regular coilover takeoffs are reported giving 2nd gens one inch lift- so are 3rd gen 6112s 1 inch (1/2" on shock)taller out of the box? maybe I could use 3rd gen 6112s set so it's not at top circlip. ? Or taller spring? The valving cant be that much diffetent the truck weights are close. Is there a 15" spring that would accomplish this with. (Think normal is 14?) 2nd gen 6112s? Once again trying reinvent the wheel here lol. Adding leaf to my Dakar pack and don't want too much rake, or to have to max compress the spring to get the right height up front. Was directed to these 15s from someone on here, cant remember who, but thanks

    https://pitstopusa.com/i-5072387-eibach-14-coil-over-spring-2-1-2-i-d-600-lb-silver.html
     
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  7. Feb 11, 2018 at 8:24 PM
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    Look back at my posts from before, 14" 610lb spring is what's on the 6112 and Eibach 14" 650/700 is the only spring I know that fit the 6112. OME do not fit.

    I can't really talk about if being on the top clip will compromise your capabilities. I know it's a possible issue as it's the reason 5100 are set at 0 with 887 to give lift without having so much preload. It's still a new setup to a lot of people and that's including myself as I'm on the top clip. So I'm sure no one has a positive answer.

    Bilstein stated that the valving is different and did not want people using the 2nd gens 6112s on the 3rd gens, but people are doing it anyways. Bilstein made specific 6112 for us so I will take their word for it.

    I have no answer if a 3rd gen 6112 will give you more lift on your 2nd gen. You can test it out and report your results to us.
     
  8. Feb 11, 2018 at 8:30 PM
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    @IronPeak also...I've talked to people on IG who have the 6112s on the highest setting and they have no issues at all and they offroad they're vehicle pretty hard, but these were 3rd gens I talked too.
     
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  9. Feb 11, 2018 at 8:37 PM
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    Mine is 3rd Gen 6112 with the base 610lb spring. I'm at the top setting and whomp my truck off-road and it handles great.... after the bumper goes on... not so sure I'm probably going to have to switch out the spring for a 650lb elbiach
     
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    Not looking for more lift per-say, don't want to have to compress the spring as much as it would be on the top clip.
     
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    You are over thinking this. use the stock spring at the highest circlip. Its fine. Going to a longer spring at the same rate will not change the amount of preload needed to get a certain lift height.

    If you are adding a bunch of weight, then you need to either get a longer spring or a higher spring rate to get the same lift height as before.
     
  13. Feb 13, 2018 at 8:08 AM
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    This is my fear with getting the Bilstein's, not holding up to the harsh Midwest winters. So much road salt used. I rinse my truck off at least a day or to after the latest storm but the roads are white from salt well afterwards.
     
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    So I had the NH Oil application to my truck this fall (first winter on my 6112s and 5100s rear). Its basically a much much better fluid film and will stick to everything and will actually creep upwards. So they did a good job coating up the shocks and so far I don't see any rust/corrosion on them. They are kind of black colored from the oil still but to me better then corroding away. I try to wash the truck after every snow storm and everything seems to be holding up ok
     
  15. Feb 15, 2018 at 11:10 AM
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    If you’ve got the 3rd gens on 6/5, would they accommodate 17” ray 10’s wrapped in 285/70 ridge graps? I’m prepared to chop a little.
     
  16. Feb 15, 2018 at 11:43 AM
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    Always be ready to chop a little...or a lot lol. But I'm sure you can make them fit on a 2" lift with some modifications because as you said " your ready to chop"
     
  17. Feb 15, 2018 at 11:46 AM
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    Right on. Trying to decide between grabbing this or doing something more along the lines of an Icon/King set up. I just don’t know if I can justify the $ for what I’d be using them for. I do like the look though. Where in VA you at? I’m in Hampton Roads.
     
  18. Feb 15, 2018 at 11:50 AM
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    I'm in VA Beach. :thumbsup: I almost went kings but I couldn't justify getting them...other then being "cool". 6112 does the job just fine for my needs.
     
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  19. Feb 15, 2018 at 12:00 PM
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    I'm in the market for these soon. Probably buying from RCA.

    Bilstein is currently on backorder for both 6112 we use for 2nd and 3rd gen Tacoma
     
  20. Feb 15, 2018 at 1:27 PM
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    Quick question. I'm thinking about going up to the #4 position on mine and throwing in a 3 leaf AAL finally.

    In my head, the simplest way to bump these up without completely dissembling everything like I did to install it would be to to put the truck on jack stands @ full droop height, floor jack the LCA up right beside the ball joint, remove the two lower ball joint bolts, remove the bolt at the top of the shock bucket that centers the shock, then lower the jack/LCA until the tension is completely off of the springs.

    Do you guys think I'd get enough droop doing this, or would I need to loosen the CAM bolts like I had to do when I installed everything?
     

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