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Bilstein Lift Options. Help me out here.

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by ryank 5, Dec 4, 2011.

  1. Dec 5, 2011 at 1:11 PM
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    Pugga

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    I've got a set of take-offs in my garage, still assembled. I'll take a look but I don't remember there being a difference visually from side to side.
     
  2. Dec 5, 2011 at 1:19 PM
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    hey also, do you think i could fit 275 70 16's under it?
     
  3. Dec 5, 2011 at 1:20 PM
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    If the seats are the same, then maybe it is in the spring.
    Mine sits at 20" across the front and 22" across the rear, stock....no lean....so they must have done something.
     
  4. Dec 5, 2011 at 1:23 PM
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    My dad and I looked them over when I took them off and could not find a difference side to side. The coils measured the same diameter using a set of calipers. I'll check the seats when I get home. It could just be how the spring is physically made :notsure:
     
  5. Dec 5, 2011 at 4:50 PM
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    Yes, I have bigger tires than you, but i have the cab mount chopped and i stripped off the front mud flaps, I'm running 275/70/17's and nothing rubs, ever, I have 5100's set at 1.75 and TRD sport coils, (not as stiff as the eibachs). I have 2 inch aal's with 5100's and firestone airbags (because i have the lumber rack, shell and tools, bitchin ride. IMO DEFINITELY REPLACE THE SHOCKS!
     
  6. Dec 6, 2011 at 2:46 PM
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    i think i'll replace the shocks. there's no 285 that will fit will there?
     
  7. Dec 6, 2011 at 4:03 PM
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    at 1.75, (the highest you can go and still get it to align)? Probably not. Even if you took the mud flaps off and did the cab mount chop, it will probably still rub at full turn.
     
  8. Dec 6, 2011 at 6:19 PM
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    you wouldn't go any higher than 1.75? any extras? spacers?
     
  9. Dec 6, 2011 at 11:38 PM
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    After all my research that I did here before I bought, I was told that the front end will not align correctly if you go any higher than 1.75 inches. If you wish to go higher then you must put new upper control arms on because the stock ones are too short. I've seen a front end with 3 inches of lift on stock UCA's and it will totally screw up your tires in a hurry. This also includes spacers too, so your total lift cannot be higher that 1.75. If any other members feel different, please chime in.
     
  10. Dec 7, 2011 at 6:50 AM
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    But your truck description says your bilsteins are set at 1.75 and your spacers are 1.25 =3 which you said you cant have
     
  11. Dec 7, 2011 at 6:55 AM
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    The spacers are Spidertrax wheel spacers, they set the rims farther outboard by 1.25 inches on either side, different spacers
     
  12. Dec 7, 2011 at 6:56 AM
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    He's got 1.25" spidertrax wheel spacers, not suspension spacers. The 1.25" wheel spacers go between the hub and the wheel making the wheel and tires stick out further giving a wider stance.

    As far as the 1.75 vs 2.5 setting, it's a crap shoot. Some members are able to run 5100's at the 2.5 setting with their stock UCA's and still get relatively within spec. At 2.5, you'll be able to get your camber and toe within spec but your castor will be low and cause the truck to feel like it's wandering at higher speeds. Caster does not wear your tires, only camber and toe do. Some shops will sacrifice some of the camber setting to gain caster, this can correct the wandering problem somewhat but having camber out of spec will wear your tires unevenly.

    Generally, below 2" of lift, you'll be fine with stock UCA's and will be able to get all alignment numbers within spec. Between 2" and 2.5" of lift it becomes somewhat blurred as to the results you'll get. If you start pushing over 2.5", you should definitely get new UCA's.
     
  13. Dec 9, 2011 at 6:14 AM
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    aah i see. ok
     
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    do new uca's provide more lift along with stability?
     
  15. Dec 9, 2011 at 6:44 AM
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    No, they do not provide lift or stability necessarily. Aftermarket UCAs are more adjustable so you can get your alignment within spec after your lift where as the stock UCAs are not adjustable.
     
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    What about a pro comp lift? Are they any good?
     
  17. Dec 10, 2011 at 2:29 PM
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  18. Dec 15, 2011 at 8:07 PM
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    I am a new Taco owner and keep hearing about the bilstein 5100's. Are these more for just the lift or are they better then stock for off roading as well. I have a friend who just put the rancho RS5000's on his truck and he loves them. I was just wondering what would be a good shock upgrade for a stock truck for better off roading.
     
  19. Dec 15, 2011 at 8:27 PM
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    They are VERY popular with the off road guys here as a good, basic shock for the money, i upgraded to them and have beat on them pretty hard and i like them
     
  20. Dec 16, 2011 at 12:53 AM
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    i have the Daystar 2.5 inch lift and noticed the wheels are outta alignment. the top half of the wheels angle out from the "stock" position. ive been watching the wear on the front tires and after a few thousand miles they still look good. guess i'm waiting on new tires before i fix the alignment. ive also noticed the truck wanders at higher speeds... guess that's a sacrifice of having a lift.

    as for the buzzing noise, i hear that every now and then from the front end, but i dont know if its from the tire alignment, or the new angle of the suspension. only time will tell. there is no difference in sound/noise between 2wd and 4wd, so im guessing its the tires.
     
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