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Brakes, delayed pull to right. 99 Tacoma

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Matermax, Dec 12, 2016.

  1. Dec 12, 2016 at 8:59 AM
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    Matermax

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    ***Problem solved, lower left/rear LCB was totally blown. When braking normal the truck seems to brake ok. If I brake hard, especially at higher speeds it pulls hard right but sort of delayed (almost rolled my truck). Whats weird is the steering wheel tuns left when this happens, feels like something is loose. Any ideas would help.
     
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  2. Dec 12, 2016 at 9:03 AM
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    check your brake pads, the left caliper might not be working so when you hard brake the right is doing all the work/braking and pulling right.
     
  3. Dec 13, 2016 at 4:25 PM
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    I have a the same problem opposite direction (pulls left slightly). Higher freeway speed braking produces a sharp pull to the left then a split second later it corrects and brakes straight. Its freaky to say the least. A friend suggested that perhaps one of the rubber brake lines became damaged during the brake job. So I am eventually going to install steel braided lines and see if there is a difference. So far I have replaced both front calipers (Autozone) and brake pads (OEM), replaced existing front coil overs (left one cracked) with newer Silver 620# Toytec Coils and Bilstein 5100s, replaced bad steel wheels with new aluminum and had an alignment done. trucks beginning to pull left

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  4. Dec 13, 2016 at 5:14 PM
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    Why didn't you change the brake lines when you did the Tundra brake upgrade? Part of the upgrade is to install new stainless steel or Kevlar brake lines. I got mine from Wheeler's off-road and the rear brake line from @OCTaco in the group buy section. I hope you figure out your problem. Having brakes like that on the freeway has to be crazy scary!

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  5. Dec 14, 2016 at 11:03 AM
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    I would definitely suggest getting the lines replaced along with the brake fluid. Not a good idea to cruise at highway speeds with questionable brakes.
     
  6. Apr 25, 2017 at 2:23 PM
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    After barely driving the truck for several months I had a mechanic look at the truck. He said that the calipers were bad and they should be replaced.. After replacing both calipers the truck continues to pull hard right when braking, nothing has changed. Not sure if changing the brake lines will help or not. Limited budget, I can't afford to just start replacing parts hoping to find the problem. Any help would be appreciated.
     
  7. Apr 25, 2017 at 2:43 PM
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    I had this issue (brake-steer) in my old solid-front-axle '84 4runner. It was caused by the change in geometry in the stock push-pull drag link when I did a suspension lift. I had to just live with it.

    You might have an issue with your front suspension. Bad bushing, or loose alignment bolt-thingy.
     
  8. Apr 25, 2017 at 2:50 PM
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    I suspect a bushing but my mechanic recently replaced the lower ones (less than two years ago, maybe 10K miles).
     
  9. Apr 25, 2017 at 3:04 PM
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    Mine pulled hard left and was the lower control arm bushings. I replaced them with whiteline bushings and no more pull. Did you have the pull before having lca bushings replaced?
     
  10. Apr 25, 2017 at 3:17 PM
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    often it can be the brake line, if it were that or the caliper, it would do it all the time and not release

    for me this pull to one side came and went at random and on mine, it turned out the brake pad "slides" were dry so the pads weren't sliding freely as they should when applied and they were "sometimes" binding and the result was only one side was braking causing the pull to one side

    a good cleanup of the calipers and fresh grease on the slides and pins and I had no more problems

    this may or may not be your problem but its a good maint job to do on your brakes regardless
     
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  11. Apr 25, 2017 at 7:33 PM
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    Update! After a complete and thorough inspection and with further testing it would appear that the suspension components are alright but the right side is definately braking harder than the left. At highway speeds and breaking real hard, the right front tire locked up before anything else. I bled the breaks again with the same results. I could relace the brake lines, maybe someone could explain how that affects the braking? Thanks for any help.
     
  12. Apr 25, 2017 at 7:43 PM
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    when the lines get old they swell up on the inside. when new, a brake line has about 3/16" or so opening inside but as they age and get old the rubber swells and sometimes they can close up to nothing and not let fluid flow as it should.

    step one would be to take off the wheels and see if its the caliper or the line that isn't working

    do this by simply have someone press the brake as you wait to see if the calipers move to squeeze the pads. if need be open the bleed screw while using a big screwdriver to pry back on it to create some slack between the pads and rotor

    if its not squeezing then open the bleed screw and press brake to see if fluid comes out, if it does then the caliper is stuck, if it doesn't then the line is blocked.

    this shows you about swollen brake lines https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqNkWlyIDLM
     
  13. Apr 25, 2017 at 7:48 PM
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    also its a good idea to replace the brake lines on any 15 year old vehicle just as a routine safety maint even if they aren't bad yet. they only cost like $12 each at the dealer
     
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  14. Apr 25, 2017 at 10:29 PM
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    Do you have ABS brakes?
     
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  15. Apr 26, 2017 at 7:23 AM
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  16. Apr 27, 2017 at 12:48 PM
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    New calipers, new brake shoes (old ones were worn equally), new brake lines, bled all the brakes all the way around (twice, used over a quart of new fluid in the process), Still pulls to the right. On the dirt they seem to lock up at the same time, on the pavement the right one locks up way before the left. Definately grabbing more on the right. At my wits end, so frustrating.
     
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    Dumb question maybe, but are the front tires the same size, same tread pattern, and same pressure?
     
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  18. Apr 27, 2017 at 7:12 PM
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    Same size. Didn't check the pressure. Not a dumb question.
     
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    OP, did you ever get to the bottom of this issue ?
     
  20. Nov 12, 2017 at 2:43 PM
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    I am fairly certain it is the LCA bushings bad. I know have some movement so until they are replaced I will continue to support this theory as to the pull
     

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