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*BREAKING NEWS* DOJ Seize online Poker Sites !!!!!!!!!

Discussion in 'Sports, Hobbies & Interests' started by neontrail, Apr 15, 2011.

  1. Apr 15, 2011 at 3:46 PM
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    neontrail

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    I just logged into my pokerstars account to play in a REAL MONEY poker tourney... AND WAS BLOCKED from playing!!!!!!!! Holy Shit!



    The poker world was shaken Friday as the owners of the three largest online poker sites -- PokerStars, Full Tilt Poker and Absolute Poker -- were charged with bank fraud, illegal gambling offenses and money laundering. The Manhattan U.S. Attorney announced the indictments of those involved with the online poker sites as well as those who were responsible for the financial transactions. The 11 defendants are Isai Scheinberg and Paul Tate (PokerStars), Raymond Bitar and Nelson Burtnick (Full Tilt Poker), Scott Tom and Brent Beckley (Absolute Poker), and Ryan Lang, Ira Rubin, Bradley Franzen, Chad Elie and John Campos (involved with payment processors).

    Manhattan U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara said in the indictment: "As charged, these defendants concocted an elaborate criminal fraud scheme, alternately tricking some U.S. banks and effectively bribing others to assure the continued flow of billions in illegal gambling profits. Moreover, as we allege, in their zeal to circumvent the gambling laws, the defendants also engaged in massive money laundering and bank fraud. Foreign firms that choose to operate in the United States are not free to flout the laws they don't like simply because they can't bear to be parted from their profits."

    The charges are conspiracy to violate Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act (UIGEA), violation of UIGEA, operation of illegal gambling business, conspiracy to commit bank fraud and wire fraud, and money laundering conspiracy . Maximum penalties from these charges range from five years in prison and a $250,000 fine to 30 years in prison and a $1,000,000 fine (or twice the gross gain or loss).

    "These defendants, knowing full well that their business with U.S. customers and U.S. banks was illegal, tried to stack the deck," said Janice Fedarcyk, FBI assistant director-in-charge. "They lied to banks about the true nature of their business. Then, some of the defendants found banks willing to flout the law for a fee. The defendants bet the house that they could continue their scheme, and they lost."

    The complaint also alleged that these companies used "fraudulent methods" to trick financial institutions into receiving payments.
    "[The sites] arranged for the money received from U.S. gamblers to be disguised as payments to hundreds of non-existent online merchants purporting to sell merchandise such as jewelry and golf balls."
    "On behalf of the millions of poker players across the country, we are shocked at the action taken by the U.S. Department of Justice today against online poker companies and will continue to fight for Americans' right to participate in the game they enjoy," said the Poker Players Alliance in a press release. "Online poker is not a crime and should not be treated as such. We are currently gathering all of the information around today's announcement and will offer detailed analysis when the full facts become available."

    The past few years, there have been numerous seizures and indictments of payment processors in the United States who were handling the financial transactions of the online poker sites. As processors continued to be targeted and shut down by federal prosecutors, the sites turned to a new direction to the point that sites "purchased the principals of a few small, local banks" that were facing tough financial times "in return for multi-million dollar investments in the banks."

    Campos and Elie were arrested Friday morning, and the Southern District of New York has stated it is working with Interpol to arrest those located abroad.

    Early Friday afternoon, PokerStars prohibited online poker players in the United States from participating in real-money gaming. At press time, Full Tilt Poker and Absolute Poker were still offering American players access to their sites. ESPN.com contacted Carolyn Sullivan of the U.S. Department of Justice, but she was unable to comment at this time. PokerStars did not reply to ESPN.com's interview request, and Full Tilt Poker declined to comment on the situation at the moment. [link]
     
  2. Apr 15, 2011 at 3:48 PM
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    ColtsTRD

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    wish I could say I never saw this coming :laugh:
     
  3. Apr 15, 2011 at 3:51 PM
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    lol, just won a tourney yesterday for $226 ... I NEVER SAW IT COMING
     
  4. Apr 15, 2011 at 3:52 PM
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    ColtsTRD

    ColtsTRD .....

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    did you have money in a account there? will you be credited if so??
     
  5. Apr 15, 2011 at 3:53 PM
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    I used to work for a major credit card company in The Fraud Department and we actually used to block any purchases we deemed as illegal gambling. I was constantly doing analysis to figure out the new merchant ID's they would create. We would send the customers letters explaining that we wouldn't finance illegal gambling. Like COLTSTRD said...Kinda saw it coming.
     
  6. Apr 15, 2011 at 3:53 PM
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    octacorunner

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    We can withdraw money that is currently in the accounts right?
     
  7. Apr 15, 2011 at 3:55 PM
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    yes, i do. I can request a check at anytime....


    atleast thats how things have been for many years!



    Im not happy right now, I enjoy my poker when im not working.:cool:
     
  8. Apr 15, 2011 at 3:56 PM
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    blackhawke88

    blackhawke88 wo ai ni bao bei ^_^

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    damn, i shoulda started an online poker site
     
  9. Apr 15, 2011 at 3:57 PM
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    most US credit cards wont work on poker sites.
     
  10. Apr 15, 2011 at 3:57 PM
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    The brick-and-mortar gambling industry has been pushing for this for years. There was no way they were going to stand by and let this go unchallenged. The old mob has no love for the new mob.
     
  11. Apr 15, 2011 at 3:57 PM
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    no idea :confused::confused:
     
  12. Apr 15, 2011 at 5:12 PM
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    I told my friend about this (I'm at work and can't withdraw from here) and he said he can't withdraw...wtfffff
     
  13. Apr 15, 2011 at 5:48 PM
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    he's at home ?^^^^ dude.. we're focked!!!!
     
  14. Apr 15, 2011 at 6:11 PM
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    Wait until the IRS comes knocking to collect on everyone's gambling winnings
     
  15. Apr 16, 2011 at 7:59 AM
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