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Brett's average build thread

Discussion in '1st Gen. Builds (1995-2004)' started by Deathbysnusnu, Dec 1, 2013.

  1. Jul 17, 2015 at 3:52 PM
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    Deathbysnusnu

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    For size comparison.






     
  2. Jul 17, 2015 at 3:55 PM
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    Why does the spool look so rough on the Warn?
    It's not rust pitted is it?
    Did you paint it with texture?

    Nice work on cleaning it up and regreasing it :thumbsup:
     
  3. Jul 17, 2015 at 3:57 PM
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    I agree, was kidding about the offset, would totally set off my ocd. :) Centered on the existing mounting holes also keeps the Toyota emblem centered above the winch too, and that really is the most important thing. :D
    And thanks!
     
  4. Jul 17, 2015 at 3:59 PM
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    rusty as hell. That winch has been on the front of that Scout for almost 20 years. Uncovered, outside. The synthetic line was stuck to it, lol. I did knock off the big chunks, then painted it with Rustoleum. That drum pipe is close to 1/4" wall so not too worried about it. Has better line grip now.

    However the internals, gears and solenoid pack were rust and dust free, no signs of ever taking on moisture. I really didn't need to clean it up either, just thought why not since I was in there.
     
  5. Jul 17, 2015 at 11:02 PM
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    Brett, I finally got my AOR bumper on so if the smittybilt goes up for sale you might have a buyer just down the street (Even though Bob at 4x4 off road, who everyone with a truck or jeep in this town seems to know, said I was only allowed to put a Warn on my truck).
     
  6. Jul 18, 2015 at 5:32 AM
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    I will keep you in mind, lol. Bob's a great guy, as most guys named Bob usually are.
    Have you run across the Mountaineers yet?
     
  7. Jul 18, 2015 at 10:43 AM
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    Preparing for surgery.


    meh, straight enough. You won't be able to see it anyway.


    Some leverage.




    At this point, I'm within less than an 1/8" of aligning all 4 holes. I thought about enlarging the holes, then decided to trim the heat sink instead. Strength in mounting is paramount.
     
  8. Jul 18, 2015 at 10:53 AM
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    More shitty welds.


    Filled in all the gaps, pics to come later. Waiting on paint to dry so I prepped the winch.
    Used my Hammerblow to clean up the battery cable.



    soldered my copper lugs on. 50/50 solder and some off brand of flux.
    I use a bench vise and a torch to heat the lug, drop some flux in and dip the cable in flux too. Fill the lug with solder, keep that shit hot and plunge the cable inside, keeping the heat applied for a few seconds. Then remove the heat and hold perfectly still for a minute or so until the solder cools and hardens.

    The vise acts as a heat sink so it takes time to heat up and then cool down as well.


    Ready for shrink wrap.


    And sealed. Should outlast me.
     
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  9. Jul 18, 2015 at 11:02 AM
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    This looks hideous, but it won't be seen. I lathered liberal amounts of bedliner on it to make sure I don't have to remove the winch any time soon and do it again.
     
  10. Jul 18, 2015 at 11:57 AM
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    Not too many of these around...


    what I had to trim, really wasn't too much.


    It's in! Bolted, torqued and wired.




    See? can't see shit. Looks good from my house.:D
     
  11. Jul 18, 2015 at 12:04 PM
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    The Smittybilt had 80' of rope. You could prolly get another 20' if you really wanted.
    The Warn has 120' of rope.
    The rope on the Warn is something I bought a few years back. It's mil spec and a bit thinner in diameter than the Amsteel blue brand. The owner of Rockstomper set me up with it back when he was in business. There is a significant difference in the way it "frays", or the fuzzies that you get on winch rope after awhile. It doesn't fray.

    as far as weight difference, I stood on the bathroom scale, today I weigh 143.4 pounds.
    Smittybilt with me--194.6
    Warn with me---194.2
    so 51 pounds and equal in weight. I must have weighed one after I peed. :p
     
  12. Jul 18, 2015 at 12:41 PM
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    HELL YEAH!!!:D good job Brettt
     
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    By the way 2* shims have arrived!!!:)
     
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  15. Jul 23, 2015 at 7:20 AM
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    882, Dakar, Detroit, 4.88, Warn 9K, Wet Okole, Dog Hair. Addicted Off Road front bumper and sliders. Rucas Built rear bumper 120' synthetic rope, Ultragauge, sway-bar delete,
    I have ordered 4.88 ring and pinion sets for the Taco and a Detroit locker as well.
    It took some doing to decide on the gearing. I know 4.56 is stock gears with 33" tires but that is not always optimal depending on your driving habits and where you live.
    Here in Colorado, we have altitude issues that suck the oxygen out of the air. So bone stock vehicles are actually struggling but we have grown so used to it it seems normal
    We also have out of state rv drivers who can't do the speed limit for whatever reason, so having power on tap to pass on a single lane going uphill is priceless.

    Gearing is not just about acceleration, it's also about engine braking and power band range. A lot of our trails are steeeeeeeep You need ample gears to get up as well as down without riding the brakes.

    Originally my truck came with a 30" tire, or it did when I bought it used, which for all intents is actually 29".

    Using this calculator http://www.ringpinion.com/Calculators/Calc_RPM.aspx

    I came up with these numbers. I'm just looking at RPM ranges, I could care less about MPG's.

    The engine seems to make the best consistent power between 2800 and 3200 rpm.

    So with 4.10 gears, 29" tires at 75 is 2850rpm.
    with 4.88 gears, 32.8" tires at 75 is 2999rpm. So 149rpm difference and right in the middle of the power band.

    4.56 gears with 32.8" tires at 75 is 2803rpm. So actually lower than stock and on the ragged edge of entering the power band.

    Smaller tires and lower profile suspensions are naturally more aerodynamic and require less energy overall.
    Large tires increase rolling resistance as well as kill aerodynamics in all area's. So much more energy overall is required to move.

    Going with 4.88 also allows me more wiggle room for larger tires. It's been my experience these things grow bigger over time.

    One other thing, the 75 speed limit is only on two roads here, I-25 (which is usually a parking lot) and small sections of I-70. I almost never drive the interstates, almost always preferring the back roads or smaller highways. So my gearing should be about perfect for the most part.

    Any questions?:D

    For reference
    R150F
    A 4WD transmission found in many Toyota trucks. Land Cruiser II, Land Cruiser Prado and Hilux Surf (1989-1993) 2L-T series and 1KZ series Turbo Diesel, V6 3VZE and 5VZ-FE ] (also Japan, UK and Europe 1KZ/TE 4Runners, 93-95)

    Ratios:

    • First Gear: 3.830:1
    • Second Gear: 2.062:1
    • Third Gear: 1.436:1
    • Fourth Gear: 1.00:1
    • Fifth Gear: 0.838:1
    For playing around with
    http://www.ringpinion.com/Calculators/Calc_RPM.aspx#Transmission
     
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    nice Elroy:D
     
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  17. Jul 23, 2015 at 9:17 AM
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    4.88.... I want. :thumbsup:
     
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  18. Jul 25, 2015 at 4:00 PM
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    **EDIT**
    <What you are about to read was a total waste of time, lol, I'm leaving it purely for "don't do this" purposes. I ended up changing it just a few days later and you can read about it further in the build.>

    My cheap, fast attempt at a shock relocate didn't last too long. Didn't expect it too but was hoping for longer.

    I had simply welded a piece of 1/4" angle to the underside of the frame with a bolt welded to that for the shock. I was happy the frame didn't tear.

    So, after laying underneath for a few hours with the shocks off, suspension drooped out, looking for a way to make it all fit with the spare tire and the stupid proportioning valve in the way, I decided to go back to my original location but with hopefully a better mount. I more or less copied what Toyota had originally done.

    I drilled a 5/8" hole though the outside of the frame and the frame plate I had welded on a while back.
    The inside support for the original mount was actually fairly stout stuff at almost 3/16". It was spaced about 1 1/8" from the inside of the frame channel. I drilled a 3/4" through this section.

    The location is angled inline with the original geometry.

    Using a 5/8" x 6" grade 8 bolt with a 3/4"od and 5/8"id sleeve. I sleeved the inner portion. The sleeve runs to the inside channel of the frame and is 3 3/16" in length.

    The washer is 7/16" out of the box but is a nice slip fit over the bolt and backs to the sleeve.

    Next I made a sleeve for the Nitrocharger shock. These things have a huge inner bushing diameter, but this actually works in my favor due the length of the bolt and the need to keep it from bending. I used the same material as for the bolt.


    Here is the preliminary install, just enough thread through the nylock ring.
    And you can see it's still has the same depth as original.


    Passenger side.


    Then I welded the sleeve all the way around. The bolt can still be removed.


    And the head on the outside. But I painted it black to blend in.


    I never bottomed them out before, the dust marks from the seals were evidence of this. The angle iron broke due to poor support, as in none at the top, and flexed until they broke.
    I have full natural spring droop now and the shocks are right at their extended limit.

    As the build progresses, I really can't say what changes will be made in this area.

    **EDIT**
    It was changed...:p
     
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  19. Jul 25, 2015 at 5:30 PM
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    The guy who did my rear relocation used a sleeve inside the ome bushing... it was quiet at first buy now makes a racket. Haven't really taken the time to look at it yet, but i think the sleeve has warped into an oval shape, and moves vertically in the mount. just something you might want to keep on radar.
     
  20. Jul 25, 2015 at 5:33 PM
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    882, Dakar, Detroit, 4.88, Warn 9K, Wet Okole, Dog Hair. Addicted Off Road front bumper and sliders. Rucas Built rear bumper 120' synthetic rope, Ultragauge, sway-bar delete,
    I've seen that before with Rancho shocks, they use a sleeve with a split down one side and yep they deform and oval out inside the rubber. I'm hoping these being a short piece of pipe will stay round.
     

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