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Brett's average build thread

Discussion in '1st Gen. Builds (1995-2004)' started by Deathbysnusnu, Dec 1, 2013.

  1. Mar 13, 2017 at 6:53 AM
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    Deathbysnusnu

    Deathbysnusnu [OP] Work is just a daily detour to happy hour.

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    Ok. Yeah I just watched a vid on different lockers I posted to my build page. I'm liking the truetrac idea. Just checking to see if that was what you had and how you like it. But since you have the regular Detroit nevermind. Just curious about the truetrac.
     
  3. Mar 13, 2017 at 7:09 AM
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    Truetrac will have better road manners. The full Detroit locker that i have has some quirks in tight, paved, corners, and can be a little harsh to drive with an automatic transmission...so something to think about.

    I think you might be happier with a selectable locker, either air or electric.
     
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  4. Mar 13, 2017 at 7:45 AM
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    I hear ya. But to be honest. The kind of off road I do. I can manage pretty well with something like a truetrac. I think a selective locker for my truck is unnecessary. Having 11-12 travel in the front and 20+ in the rear I'll be able to keep good contact. Plus comparing cost. I'll keep reading.....
     
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  5. Mar 13, 2017 at 7:59 AM
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    I think you have a good idea what you are looking for. The Truetrac would certainly be a good choice for a truck with an automatic transmission.
    The key to using a fully automatic locker is being able to remove engine torque as needed, via the use of the clutch, in order to have it behave around town. An automatic transmission has torque applied full time, so some rear end jumping and skipping can be expected. There is absolutely no skill or knowledge required in order to have the thing lock up during wheeling, that's it's nature, it wants to be locked. Totally point and shoot.

    TrueTrac should be fine with what you currently have for road manners.

    I'm not sure how a full time locker reacts to jumping and landing though. Spider gears in an open/selectable diff do provide some much needed "cushioning" when there is shock loading present. I wouldn't be worried about the locker breaking, but axle shafts and driveshafts will be getting a harder hit.
     
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  6. Mar 13, 2017 at 9:36 AM
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    Yeah jumping with and selective locker engaged sounds like a time bomb. I always try and keep my foot off the throttle in the air until after contact and cost out, not throttle out. Watching vids on the true trac looks pretty cool for my style of driving. I'll be able to add brake assistance when need be. Plus you can't beat a 500 price over 1000+ for selective. I do agree that selective is king of the hill of lockers but I can't justify that for my truck.
     
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  7. Mar 22, 2017 at 2:29 PM
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    Factory/Dealer mod.
    This applies to 95.5-97 trucks with factory AC.

    The back story...
    My AC crapped out last fall, just as the snow flew. No biggie, I'll fix it in the spring.
    Well, Spring came early. Actually, there is a lot more to the story, but telling it makes me homicidal. So lets just go with why YOU might want to change it.

    There is an actual TSB about this from years ago. If your truck has less than 3 years or 36,000 miles, you get it for free.....:rofl:

    In the front of the truck, near the accumulator, are two lines. line #1 and line#2.
    Line #1 is prone to cracking due to stress flexing.
    There is a revised kit that replaces a few brackets, and changes the shape of Line #1 so it can vibrate away and be happy about it.

    The kit. From Toyota.

    The TSB

    The 6 replacement parts. Two of them, the clear/white plastic pieces, are optional.

    The short tube that is disconnected at the bottom is being replaced. Mine has a crack in it at the lower fitting.

    The crack.


    The bracket with the #534 stamped on it gets replaced, there is another on the passenger side as well.


    The old bracket and the new bracket.
    The rubber vibration grommet is reused. It just slides off and back on to the new bracket.

    New bracket in place. Tighten the bolts in this order to avoid cracking the condenser, cause that would really suck.
    Number 1 bolt. It's hole is non adjustable, start here.

    Number 2 bolt. This hole IS adjustable, make it straight, or as straight as you can. this one sat just slightly off kilter. This bolt is actually the upper radiator mounting bolt, now they share the mount.

    Number 3 bolt. Tighten this last, just make it snug, as it is going through the plastic portion of the condenser.


    One for each side.


    All they do is reinforce the condenser mounting points. It's much more secure now.
    New pipe #1 on the left, old pipe #1 on the right.

    New clip for pipe #1. It simply presses in between the fins and keeps pipe#1 from rubbing.

    It's general location.



    A couple of 12oz cans of R134A brought it to the minimum charge. I'll do one more to top it off. It's pretty damn cold though, makes me happy.


    The two clear/white plastic pieces that I mentioned were optional, are cheap replacement caps for the High and Low pressure ports. Which was fortuitous, as I lost the low side cap, while I was doing the job. I think the dog may have ate it while I was doing the replacement. :eek:


    The parts that were replaced when it was all said and done.
     
  8. Mar 22, 2017 at 5:25 PM
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    Squeaky Penguin Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained

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    In the process of installing the proportioning valve in the rear, had to get 2 additional unions to make it work, and probably not any easier at this point.

    Also, what are you thoughts on your muffler after having it for a while now? The seam on mine if falling apart so I figure I might as well replace it while I have the bed off. Just don't want it too loud.
     
  9. Mar 22, 2017 at 6:30 PM
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    I've been happy with the muffler.
    They say if it's too loud, you're too old.
    I'm old, and I don't think it's loud.
     
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  10. Mar 29, 2017 at 6:58 AM
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    The new OEM rack you got came with ITRE's, correct?
     
  11. Mar 29, 2017 at 7:10 AM
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    Yes, complete except for the outer tie rods.
     
  12. Mar 29, 2017 at 7:15 AM
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    Perfect, thank you! Going OEM for the pump and outer tie rods too. Going to be an expensive refresh.
     
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  13. Mar 29, 2017 at 7:16 AM
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    Deathbysnusnu [OP] Work is just a daily detour to happy hour.

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    trust me, it's cheaper than doing it twice. :anonymous:
     
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  14. Mar 29, 2017 at 7:21 AM
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    Oh I know. this is my second rack since end of 2014 (Rack Doctor) and went through 2 reman A1-Cardone pumps. And that was with the truck sitting for 6 months with frame replacement and barely getting wheeled now with blown diff. I feel like once I replace my rack the pump whine will actually go away but I'm basically torturing the pump now with constant refills so it won't last much longer.
     
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  15. Apr 10, 2017 at 11:47 AM
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    Alright, since I'm poking around in everyone's threads today I might as well get in here.

    I've been talking a bit with @Reh5108 regarding my steering rack and have some questions:
    It has a noticeable clunk that has developed as of late, particularly while turning and hitting a bump. The clunk seems to be intermittent, but is noticeable nonetheless. Ryan made mention that you had replaced your bushings and noticed some improvement, but not much? If I were to replace the guide and bushings could this potentially help, or would I be wasting money that could have otherwise been contributed to a new rack?


    Also taking this over here so I don't completely bomb young Brett's thread today:

    Nope, the problem definitely came with the rear bumper - particularly the ~100lb tire hanging off the ass.

    I've been debating on how to level out weight. I was thinking of just placing the tire in the box for the time being, again, that defeats the purpose of the swingout. I've also thought about a tool box situated against the front of the box. After your comment with the sand bags, this leads me to believe that the tool box would need to be loaded to the brim with shit - not my anticipation for a tool box...
    I'm also learning that more weight doesn't really seem like the solution to a bigger problem. More weight would just add more stress to the weak frame. So I think I just talked myself into a circle and concluded that I need to bump up boxing the frame on the to-do list.
     
  16. Apr 10, 2017 at 11:50 AM
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    Sadly I can't help you on that one Austin. I replaced my racks because of leaks, not play. I think my play wasn't terrible TBH.
     
  17. Apr 10, 2017 at 12:04 PM
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    Exactly. I spent years putting that Scout on a diet, everybody on this site is trying to fatten up what I consider to be a svelte mountain goat. Keep it light and functional.

    I'd like to hear from @TuckGraham and see if he is having any flex. I'm not sure if you have seen how he did his swing-out, it's actually mounted to the bed rails. I doubt it made a difference, but would like to hear from him. Maybe he doesn't have the concrete roads we have here.


    Have you ever pulled a trailer with your truck? I have, tent trailer and a construction trailer. Neither of those, hanging off the bumper heavier than a tire btw, caused the bounce. I have no idea why either.
     
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  18. Apr 10, 2017 at 12:09 PM
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    @alee891
    As far as your rack, you'll need to jack both wheels off the ground and see where the play is. The bushings are easy to see, but if you have a clunk, I'd say it's the rack guide. That's where my clunk came from.
    Since my rack was aftermarket, I opted for the new OEM rack. If yours is the OEM rack, maybe the guide replacement will do the trick. There was an upgraded guide at some point, maybe you still have the old roller style.
     
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  19. Apr 10, 2017 at 12:10 PM
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    Trying to understand the underlying question here. As I'm just trying to catch up with whats been going on!
    Are you asking about flex in the bedside or in the leafs?
     
  20. Apr 10, 2017 at 12:13 PM
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    Forget the flex, :) does your rear end hop up and down when you drive over concrete roads at speeds above 45mph?
     

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