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buying a new diesel

Discussion in 'General Automotive' started by vtragweed, Sep 17, 2009.

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which is the best

Poll closed Oct 17, 2009.

  1. dodge 6.7 cummins

    40 vote(s)
    48.2%

  2. ford 6.4 powerstroke

    13 vote(s)
    15.7%

  3. gmc 6.6 LBZ duramax

    30 vote(s)
    36.1%
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  1. Sep 17, 2009 at 6:01 PM
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    dexterdog

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    dexterdog My pee parts itch

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    It's all about displacement.

    [QUOTEyou might have heard this back in the 90's ford sold all the stock shares. when dodge signed the contract with cummins ][/QUOTE]

    Yes, International Navistar has been the sole supplier of Ford diesel motors since '79.

    Diesels endure higher maintenance costs but if properly maintained they will last a long time. Neglect of a diesel motor is not a good thing.
     
    dexterdog, Sep 17, 2009
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  2. Sep 17, 2009 at 6:01 PM
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    dexterdog

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    It's all about displacement.

    Yes, International Navistar has been the sole supplier of Ford diesel motors since '79.

    Diesels endure higher maintenance costs but if properly maintained they will last a long time. Neglect of a diesel motor is not a good thing.
     
    dexterdog, Sep 17, 2009
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  3. Sep 17, 2009 at 6:12 PM
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    ford for sure.i just read in one of the 4wd mags that the new dodge diesels have problems blowing up turbos because extreme build up. i got to dig the mag out and post the article.
     
    paintdiddy, Sep 17, 2009
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  4. Sep 17, 2009 at 6:16 PM
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    I'd like the Cummins, but I can't stand a Dodge. I'd get the Chevy with the Duramax.
     
    Incognito, Sep 17, 2009
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  5. Sep 17, 2009 at 6:58 PM
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    The interior kinda sucks, I don't know about the 2010's but the others were cheap.

    The motor was bullet proof on the Cummins though. If I bought a Diesel that's what I'd go. We had 2500 Cummins on our work trucks and even in -40 -50ºC they still turned over no problems. The newer engines don't get as good fuel economy as the 5.9L they had in 07, but they still haul ass and keep on tickin'.
     
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  6. Sep 17, 2009 at 7:04 PM
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    Get the new 6.4 ford. Put a chip, CAI, exhaust and do the delete pipe mod and you got 550-600hp right off the bat!
    Cummins is my second choice with chevy and GM being dead last.
    I've been to allot of diesels rally in texas and I rarely ever see chevy diesels modded.
    Also the 2010 ford diesel is the Scorpion and it supposed to be awesome! Made strictly by Ford instead of International.
     
    Anathollo, Sep 17, 2009
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  7. Sep 17, 2009 at 8:06 PM
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    Dodge it up!!! My Captain's got one!!! I love it!!!:D
     
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  8. Sep 17, 2009 at 8:16 PM
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    And you'll have no factory warranty on top of that 550-600hp.
     
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  9. Sep 17, 2009 at 8:18 PM
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    i would say the ford super duty 6.7 litre diesel. the turbos blow offs on those things are phenominal
     
    beastlytaco, Sep 17, 2009
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  10. Sep 17, 2009 at 10:12 PM
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    The blow offs? Seriously?
     
    Krazie Sj, Sep 17, 2009
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  11. Sep 17, 2009 at 10:37 PM
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    For me, it'd be a tough call going between a Cummins or a duramax. I like the look of the dodge better and kinda like the cummins better, but the interior on the chevy/gmcs and overall fit/finish/quality kicks dodges ass. Im kinda a chevy guy, but I think I might sway to the cummins. And I'd stay the hell away from the 6.0 and 6.4 powerstrokes. The new 'scorpion' powerstroke diesel that ford is coming out with might be better.... lets hope.
     
    RelentlessFab, Sep 17, 2009
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  12. Sep 18, 2009 at 7:19 AM
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    And who exactly 'needs' that extra power? Most of these diesels will pull at least 11k lbs standard.
     
    petersharp, Sep 18, 2009
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  13. Sep 18, 2009 at 7:25 AM
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    I just want to be the jackass and say buy a supercharged Tundra. Gutz's tundra puts 520 to the wheels.

    http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3365294

    Whichever you choose good luck with your purchase. Hope its lasts as long as your old one that's a lot of miles.
     
    NumNutz, Sep 18, 2009
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  14. Sep 18, 2009 at 9:06 AM
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    They are incorrect.:)
     
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  15. Sep 18, 2009 at 9:10 AM
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  16. Sep 18, 2009 at 10:14 PM
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    Read some stuff about the new Scorpion Powerstroke in Diesel Power today. Looks high tech and quite interesting. DP estimates power and torque to be 380/700 respectively. Not bad if its true.
    They also had a LBZ duramax with only engine tuning(no exhaust, intake, or any other mods) that was laying down 600+hp and 11xx tq! not bad. :cool:
     
    RelentlessFab, Sep 18, 2009
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  17. Sep 19, 2009 at 6:57 PM
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    we use the f350 and f550 diesels for my work for towing our boats (approx 10000lbs) and those trucks are always in the shop for something...weather it be the turbo going out or somethings wrong with the alignment...screw ford..horrible company

    just remember FORD stands for:
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    mmadej87, Sep 19, 2009
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  18. Sep 21, 2009 at 6:24 AM
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    at my last job they bought a brand new 2008 GMC 3500HD with the allison tranny to replace our dodge dually (cummins) as our livestock transport truck. going from that dodge to the GMC was like night and day.

    as far as power goes... no contest. i was hauling about 10-11,000 lbs worth of trailer and steers and hardly noticed they were back there. i could actually accelerate up hills under load where as i struggled to just maintain my speed in the dodge. i drove it from NY to oregon, oklahoma, mississippi, and florida and it was an extremely comfortable ride...

    i say GMC FTW!!
     
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  19. Sep 21, 2009 at 6:44 AM
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    Look at the new 3v v10 gasser in the f350. Fantastic motor.

    I wouldn't get a modern diesel. They have made them so complicated in order to pass emissions that they just aren't the same.

    Unless you can find a nice older 7.3 PSD, I would avoid a diesel unless you tow long distances and you do it for a living.

    My good friend hauls cars. He got a 6.0 PSD excursion and sold it a month later. It let him down while on a tow. He is back to a v10 excursion now.

    Good luck.

    Don't give a penny to Government Motors.
     
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  20. Sep 21, 2009 at 9:23 AM
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    I can't speak for the newer ones. My dad has an older Dodge Cummins dually and it has never let him down. That old ISB motor with a manual transmission has around 300k miles on it. It looks rough as hell but it runs and pulls all day long. He tows a stock trailer and 34ft travel trailer with that thing.
    The new emissions are throwing a curve into the diesel market so much so that Cat is pulling out of the over-the road market altogether.
     
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