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Camburg vs Dirt King +3.5 Long Travel Detailed Review

Discussion in 'Long Travel Suspension' started by HeisKai, May 3, 2021.

  1. May 3, 2021 at 9:22 AM
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    HeisKai

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    Hey guys! I'm mostly active on FJCruiserforums but been enjoying the large amount of highly technical discussions here on Tacoma World. After all, FJ and Tacoma are cousins and I do own a 1st gen TRD off-road Xtra cab.

    I'm very nerdy when it comes to mods. I went from Total Chaos +2 LT, to Camburg +3.5 LT and recently to Dirt King +3.5 LT. After installing, wheeling and maintaining these suspensions all by myself for years, I decided to make a serious video reviewing some technical details that might be hard to find elsewhere. Please check it out and let me know what you think! Let me know if I missed anything important or said anything not aligning with your experience.

    If this video was helpful to you, a like and subscribe (i know...the YouTuber cliché :D) will really help me grow this channel. Enjoy the review!



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  2. May 3, 2021 at 4:29 PM
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    Matty0317

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    Sterling_vH111

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    Great video! subscribed :thumbsup:
     
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  4. May 27, 2021 at 4:24 PM
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    Awesome video!
     
  5. Jun 14, 2021 at 11:57 PM
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    Fantastic video, this was the best video I've seen yet describing the differences in the long travel kits. I was leaning toward Dirt King before, but this definitely made me feel better about the choice! Thank you for your work in making this video and I'm really looking forward to your future videos... I subscribed!
     
  6. Jun 15, 2021 at 12:03 AM
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  7. Jul 6, 2021 at 11:52 PM
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    Awesome video! Thanks!
     
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  8. Aug 3, 2021 at 2:59 PM
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    very nice summary.


    So in conclusion, if you are going to do IFS "long travel", might as well do it correctly and go custom spindles , steering , CVs and new upper arm pivots (stock coil bucket and stock upper arm frame pivots in the garbage can too). Like this:



    "12.5 inches of 4x4 travel" ? For all that money and extra parts + width ? Why not just rock mid travel kit at that point and still be able to park in normal spots plus do a u-turn if needed. Not to mention zero CV cost. Pulls 2-3" more than Mid travel? OK, didn't realize it was that bad. Always assumed 14-15" of 4x4 travel with these 3.5" over TC/camburg/DirtKing kits.


    I don't know, seems the lesson here is if you have decided to go LT , don't half ass it and end up with something slightly better than a Mid travel setup. Go all out and actually make your front IFS "long travel".
     
  9. Aug 4, 2021 at 9:07 AM
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    A mid travel setup will yield you 7.5” of travel. 7.5 to 12.5 is a pretty significant jump especially for something that is direct bolt on
     
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    I am running stock length camburg uniball upper and lower control arms with icon extended travel coil overs (gen3 Tacoma). So it’s a mid travel stock width setup When I cycle the suspension I was able to get 8.75” (with rubber bumps installed). The CV didn’t bind at droop either .
     
  11. Aug 4, 2021 at 12:38 PM
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    Turn the wheel all the way right or left at full droop and hit the throttle to watch those big ball bearings fly. I still have the one ball bearing that almost killed my spotter.
     
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  12. Oct 12, 2021 at 8:34 PM
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    This is the best video comparison I have seen. Thanks!
     
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  13. Nov 10, 2021 at 12:48 PM
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    Interesting video. Dirt King definitely makes nice stuff.
     
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    I can see where you're coming from. Just like most mods out there, performance and cost doesn't increase at the same rate. Here we are talking about 40-50% more travel, but probably 200% more cost. To make a full on racing suspension that cycles clean and reliably, there will be a even larger gap between cost and performance. I also found the true suspension travel numbers out there all tends to be inflated. Even the customers would tend to inflate their numbers. One is few people would actually take precise measurement like I did in the video. Second is most people have their pride and ego and don't want to admit less stellar numbers after spending the big bucks:D
     
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    Your video is the reason I pulled the trigger on the dirt king kit. Now my favorite YouTuber!
     
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