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Can leveling a truck really be this hard?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Gakdude, Aug 19, 2017.

  1. Aug 19, 2017 at 4:57 PM
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    Gakdude

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    Hey all,
    I am lost. Just put some bilsteins 5100s on my 2015 prerunner access cab. Just wanted to do a mild lift on the front to make room for the 265 70s that I put on. Bilsteins were set at .85 and I'm glad I went that route because it leveled me pretty much perfect front to back. The problem I'm having is with the drivers lean and the spacers used to correct this issue. I initially installed a 1/4 inch lean spacer on the drivers side and it still left me with a small lean to drivers side. This is when I decided to order longer top plate studs and a 3/8 spacer to try to even it out the rest of the way. Long story short, when I went to pick up my truck after the install, the shop stacked the 3/8 with the 1/4 inch spacer instead of removing one and replacing it with the other. Here's where it gets confusing... now I have a total of 5/8 inch of top plate spacer stacked on the drivers side and it sits almost exactly level... anyone have any ideas what's going on how I could be level with that much spacer and whether this is a safe setup? Seems to drive fine and it aligned as well... I'm at a loss. If I was almost level with the 1/4 in spacer then I added another 3/8 to that, I would think that I would be high on the drivers side but that doesn't appear to be the case... Someone please help me understand what's going on...
     
  2. Aug 19, 2017 at 5:01 PM
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    And I'm aware of the fact that the coils are side specific and thought maybe they had switched them when they initially installed the struts, but after doing some research, I'm fairly confidant that they are on the right sides because with just the 1/4 inch spacer installed, I was only leaning a little bit still. Maybe like an 1/4 inch.
     
  3. Aug 19, 2017 at 5:13 PM
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    Hawforne

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    You're not installing yourself so you're fucked but...

    If I were you I would switch to a stiffer spring rate. My second choice would be to adjust them for the height difference. Just for peace of mind I would swap the driver and passenger side coils.

    No matter what, having stacked spacers equaling almost 1.25" is not the right answer lol.

    Fwiw I am running equal rate eibach 700lb coils on my toytec coilovers and my truck sits flatter than a countertop.
     
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  4. Aug 19, 2017 at 5:22 PM
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    Is it problem having the spacers the way they are? It's pretty much all level now and doesn't really ride poorly.
     
  5. Aug 19, 2017 at 6:03 PM
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    Other than being jank as shit?
    Nothing I guess. I haven't heard of the tacoma driver lean being that severe. I may be wrong since I'm not personally familiar with it. But that doesn't sound right. Just look into everything. Recall the scientific method from school lol I'm serious.
     
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  6. Aug 19, 2017 at 6:31 PM
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    I know what I would like to do. I want to just pull the extra spacer out and wouldn't mind trying to swap the coils over to see if that makes a difference but since It's already aligned and stuff, it would be much easier to leave it the way it is as long as I can be sure that it's a safe setup.
     
  7. Aug 19, 2017 at 6:37 PM
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    There's no way it's "unsafe" particularly except you don't have anything limiting your down travel on the driver side. Your driver tire will drop further than your passenger. Things may get fucky off-road if you find something besides sandy mud lol. BUT.. for driving down 75 or 95, you're fine.
     
  8. Aug 19, 2017 at 6:38 PM
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    The spacers can not really move, especially come out. If your concerns lie within the spacers. Nothing is wrong with them, other than being rigged lol
     
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  9. Aug 19, 2017 at 7:30 PM
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    Ya I don't do any major off-roading. It's pretty much a road vehicle except for occasional gravel and dirt trails. Doesn't look or ride bad so Im hoping I can just leave it as is for now. I'm just OCD about my truck so it bothers me to know that something isn't right.
     
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    The whole point of having a suspension lift is being able to avoid a spacer lift.
     
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  11. Aug 19, 2017 at 7:42 PM
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    The last thing you are is OCD if you've got a spacer under there. You should be fine.
     
  12. Aug 19, 2017 at 7:57 PM
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    The shock will still limit the down travel the same way it did before.
     
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    You're safe. Tons of people run spacers to make up for the lean with zero issues. Tons.
     
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    Wrong.

    You add spacers, you allow the control arms to droop further than they're intended to because the full extended length of the shocks is what limits the entire system.
     
  15. Aug 19, 2017 at 8:16 PM
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    More people have hung themselves than the amount of people running spacers. Try that next if commonplace = good.
     
  16. Aug 19, 2017 at 8:21 PM
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    The shock will STILL limit the down travel.
     
  17. Aug 19, 2017 at 8:23 PM
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    Not sure what people hanging themselves have to do with anything, but a 5/8" spacer isn't going to kill anybody. Stop spreading false panic.
     
  18. Aug 19, 2017 at 8:26 PM
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    I have a 6" long string with a bead on the end. The string is attached to a point. The bead is 6" from the original mounting point. Now I move the mounting point of the string down an inch. The bead is now 7" away from the original mounting point.

    The string is your strut assembly.
    The bead is your LCA.

    The result is your suspension being all fucked up. Just like your logic here.
     
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  19. Aug 19, 2017 at 8:27 PM
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    Said it was fine. We're arguing mechanics. Not this guys truck anymore.
     
  20. Aug 19, 2017 at 8:28 PM
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    Look sally, the shock was limiting the down travel before so it is still limiting the down travel even with a tiny 5/8" spacer. Calm down and cut the attitude.
     

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