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CARB gas cans that don't suck

Discussion in 'Recovery' started by Strostkovy, Apr 14, 2021.

  1. Apr 14, 2021 at 6:41 PM
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    Strostkovy

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    Anyone know of any brands of gas cans that let you get most of the gas into the vehicle you are filling? All the ones I've used leak all over the place.

    What I really want is a 3 to 5 gallon cylinder shaped bottle (which you can get for water, CO2, propane, etc) which would be easier to mount and take up less space on my flatbed than jerry cans.

    Also, all of the plastic ones I've seen balloon or raisin depending on the temperature. I just don't get why it's so hard.
     
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  2. Apr 15, 2021 at 5:44 AM
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    Not enough of a market to do the research and design pay the product liability insurance Either gear up to manufacture or out source to off shore.
    Sell a product for a price people will grin and bear.
     
  3. Apr 15, 2021 at 8:10 AM
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    JEEPNIK

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    About thirty years ago a company was making stainless steel jerry cans. Original german design. Still have all four, but I did paint them red. I walked behind my Jeep one afternoon and was blinded by the glare (sorry to all the drivers I did it to).

    Long winded way of saying, why doesn’t someone still make the for “WATER”?
     
  4. Apr 15, 2021 at 8:18 AM
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    Rock Lobster

    Rock Lobster knows nothing, yet an expert in everything.

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    Safety cans. Better than plastic. Cheaper than jerry cans. Cylindrical. Not cool enough for the insta or broverlander crowd. MSHA compliant (which is OSHA on steroids). They are my favorite can for all of those reasons.

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  5. Apr 15, 2021 at 8:24 AM
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    EPA got involved to change the requirements for fuel cans a few years ago to minimize spillage of fuel.

    I've got a couple of those EPA compliant abominations......I never spilled as much fuel as I do with those abortions.

    I have recently replaced one of those plastic POS (seam split at the handle) with a metal Safety Can (2 gallon), use a funnel.......no more spilled fuel. Hmmmm...go figure.
     
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  6. Apr 15, 2021 at 8:31 AM
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    JasonLee

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    The EPA compliance change several years ago was to reduce the vapors from escaping into the atmosphere as unburned hydrocarbons, not about keeping you from spilling gas. Unfortunately, most of the manufacturers made compliant filler nozzles that were not user friendly, causing us to leak gas down the side of our vehicles…
     
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  7. Apr 15, 2021 at 8:34 AM
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    I stand corrected. I was under the impression it was to minimize spillage.

    Either way, the current design is 5hit!!!!
     
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  8. Apr 15, 2021 at 8:35 AM
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  9. Apr 15, 2021 at 8:36 AM
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    Yes the EPA rule was to minimize vapor leakage. Unfortunately they did not have the wisdom to also require the gizmos to minimize leakage when used by a normal person in a normal manner.
     
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    I know they are hard to find in the US but Scepter Millitary Fuel Cans. Do not leak, no need to "burp", empty 5 gallons in ynder a munute. Safe to transport inside a vehicle.
     
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    Get a 5 gal Tuff Jug with a fast fill spout

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    Say what you want about California, CARB at least specifies spillage AND vapors...

    https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/our-work/programs/portable-fuel-containers-gas-cans/about

    It's not really the law that sucks, although that is an easy scapegoat. I think preventing the fuel you bought from escaping your jug is a good thing, regardless of what it does to the baby seals and endangered fish.

    The problem is the implementation. Manufacturers seem incapable, or maybe just unwilling to design something that is actually user friendly that meets certain design criteria (basic design analysis 101).

    I have a small can I use for my weedeater with a spout you pull in and it releases the fuel. Works really well actually, except that it has this stupid twist lock that broke the first use. Other than that, the actual auto seal mechanism and the spout work really well, and it's nice not you have to disassemble the spout assebmly in order to seal it up.
     
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  17. May 4, 2021 at 10:21 AM
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    whatstcp currently drunk so don't listen to me

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    They all suck but so far this one has been the best one (of carb approved) I have found locally on the shelf. Pressure still builds up way too much but I just leave the nozzle cap a little loose when it is sitting at home so it can vent. It pours pretty good without spilling fuel everywhere or draining all over the place. However, due to the way it pours, I have to drag around a funnel since the angle and length of the nozzle won't let it pour into the fuel filler neck. The two below are others I have tried and they suck balls. I've only had them for about two years so who knows if it'll start giving me issues in the future. If it does, I'll just piss off california and get a non approved neck. But even those are hard to find in good quality since they are made super cheaply and start cracking or the retrofit caps don't fit well sometimes. Funny how carb is supposed to be better for the environment but I've thrown away more gas cans or spilled more fuel than I ever did back in the good ole days.

    https://www.walmart.com/ip/Easy-Can-No-Spill-5-Gallon/889766106


    no bueno, suck ass:

    https://www.walmart.com/ip/Scepter-2-Gallon-SmartControl-Gas-Can-FR1G201-Red/581174183

    https://www.amazon.com/Midwest-Can-...ild=1&keywords=gas+can&qid=1620148551&sr=8-10

    edit: just reread your post as I read through it too fast, the one I posted above will still balloon or suck in on the back of the truck. The one @Rock Lobster recommended is probably your best bet.
     
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    Yes.... but I now release a MUCH greater amount of vapors into the atmosphere via spillage when refueling my lawn equipment than I ever did before.
     
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