1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Clutch Habits (Auto trans drivers plz don't vote)

Discussion in 'Technical Chat' started by gozar, Sep 5, 2009.

?

Coming to a stop

Poll closed Oct 5, 2009.
  1. Clutch in - Coasting while braking

    29 vote(s)
    27.1%
  2. Downshift

    57 vote(s)
    53.3%
  3. Clutch out 'til just before stopping

    21 vote(s)
    19.6%
  1. Sep 5, 2009 at 9:58 PM
    #1
    gozar

    gozar [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2008
    Member:
    #5890
    Messages:
    476
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Matt
    Arizona
    Vehicle:
    2007 TRD Off-Road 6 speed manual
    Manual drivers - what are your clutch habits when slowing to a stop?
    Let's say you are going 45 miles per hour in 5th or 6th gear, and the light goes red 100 or 200 yards ahead of you.

    Do you:
    01 :: Immediately put the clutch to the floor, and use brakes to stop while coasting with the engine idling.
    02 :: Downshift a gear, keep clutch engaged while using brakes. (Clutch in just before the engine lugs.)
    03 :: Leave it in the current gear while braking, and put the clutch in just before the engine would start to lug.
     
  2. Sep 5, 2009 at 10:00 PM
    #2
    08pretaco

    08pretaco Almost there

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2008
    Member:
    #9502
    Messages:
    9,059
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Oliver
    az
    Vehicle:
    2014 Tundra 4x4 CM 5.7L SR5
    AFE pro dry s, Husky X-act Contour
    01 and 03. i time it to where i never really have to use my brakes but sometimes put it down cause it starts to lug then it turns green. saved my about 5 or 6 mpg driving like that. used to get under 20 consistently now average about 25.2 or so but i never ever never ride the clutch
     
  3. Sep 6, 2009 at 5:14 AM
    #3
    gupster88

    gupster88 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2009
    Member:
    #16692
    Messages:
    3,791
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Brett
    Almost Heaven
    Vehicle:
    '17 Inferno DCSB O/R
    STOCK 4 NOW
    tacoma is an auto, but in my 93 corolla i just put the clutch in and coast to a stop using my brakes.
     
  4. Sep 6, 2009 at 6:14 AM
    #4
    Brunes

    Brunes abides.

    Joined:
    May 31, 2008
    Member:
    #7011
    Messages:
    17,641
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rotorhead
    DC or New Jersey - Depends on the day....
    Vehicle:
    08 Red/Graphite and Satin Black
    Inside: Tint, Wet Okole 1/2 Piped Red/Black Covers, Black Weathertech Digital Fit Mats, URD Short Throw w/ TWM Weighted Knob, USA Spec iPod adapter. Outside: 4300K Retro w/ Angel Eyes and Red Shrouds, 5000K Blazer Fog Light Retrofit, Debadge, Bed Locking Handle, Satin Black Rims Performance: TRD/Steigmeier Blower w/ 2.7 Pulley. 668 Injectors and 320 LPH AEM Fuel pump. URD UCON and 7th Injector. DTLT Headers, URD Y-Pipe, Wicked Flow Muffler. Suspension: Both: OME Shocks Front: 886X's and TC UCAs Rear: Dakars Armor: Relentless Front Bumper Relentless High Clearance Rear w/ Tire/Rotopax Swing Out Relentless Front, Mid, and TCase skids BAMF Diff Skid Recovery and Spares: Fullsize Spare Tire 2x2 gal Rotopax 1x1 gal Rotopax 1x1 gal Water Rotopax Warn 9.5XP-S Winch Hi-Lift Extreme 60" Ironman Off-Road Recovery Kit
    Downshifting to match the trans rotation speed gives you engine response should anything go wrong. Coasting in neutral or in the max gear you were in leaves you with an extra step or two to get to an engine you can accelerate.
     
  5. Sep 6, 2009 at 9:04 AM
    #5
    Tacoyota

    Tacoyota senile member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2009
    Member:
    #20028
    Messages:
    2,960
    Gender:
    Male
    North of Cali, South of Canada
    Vehicle:
    08 4wd
    4.56 gears, rear trutrac,DT header, 235/85r16 Duratracs, 2nd filter pulled, inter.wipers, Cruise control, Factory alum. whls/winter tires(2nd set), Afe pro Dry-S , Dumbo eared flaps cut down.
    at 45 mph you will get to that red light and stop before it turns green in most cases. when i can, I slow down and try to get to the light when its green so i can go back in gear and keep moving.
     
  6. Sep 6, 2009 at 9:26 AM
    #6
    Burgman

    Burgman I KEEEEEL YOU

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2009
    Member:
    #16072
    Messages:
    26,682
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Stephen
    Ric VA
    Vehicle:
    08 PreRunner TRD sport Silver
    K&N intake, Boston Acoustic SL 60 6.5 components up front, Rockford Power T16 6.5 in rear, Pioneer P4100 HU, Soon to be Pioneer Prs 4200f
    in my teg i would do both, downshift and coast on the brakes... towards of our time together i would downshift more
     
  7. Sep 6, 2009 at 11:00 AM
    #7
    [eric]

    [eric] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2009
    Member:
    #13502
    Messages:
    139
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Eric
    Bend, OR
    Vehicle:
    2005 Tacoma TRD OFF Road
    That's what I do too.

    I have been told its "better" to downshift and keep the truck in a responsive gear in case I need to acceleralte and pull away for any reason.
    But when I down shift, no matter how smooth I try to make it, it usually jerks a little and I dont like the way it feels. any tips?
     
  8. Sep 6, 2009 at 11:04 AM
    #8
    jfr02

    jfr02 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2009
    Member:
    #15567
    Messages:
    233
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2012 dcsb 6spd sport
    this is what i do and no downshifting to slow down brakes are cheaper than a clutch.all of my cars were manuals and drove them to almost 200k and never replaced a clutch.
     
  9. Sep 6, 2009 at 11:07 AM
    #9
    dylandercole

    dylandercole Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2009
    Member:
    #20547
    Messages:
    1,372
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dylan
    Santa Cruz Mountains, CA
    Vehicle:
    03 SR5 TRD 4x4 5-speed
    sway-a-way 2.0 coilovers, 1.5'' AAL, 1'' toytec shackle lift, Go-Rhino 3000 Grille Guard, Kicker KS6502 speakers, JVC KD-S24 Head unit, billstein 5125 rear shocks, Deck Plate mod, K&N air filter, Wheelers offroad front and rear braided brake lines, diff breather mod, power slot rotors, ebc yellow stuff pads
    downshift.
     
  10. Sep 6, 2009 at 11:31 AM
    #10
    higherlux

    higherlux Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2008
    Member:
    #11307
    Messages:
    6,938
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Blake
    middle of S.C.
    Vehicle:
    1998 tacoma 2.7l 4wd/1986 POS
    Mall crawler status
    i pop it in to Neutral and brake to the light and stay in neutral untill the light changes
     
  11. Sep 6, 2009 at 4:42 PM
    #11
    wolfgang123

    wolfgang123 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2009
    Member:
    #19369
    Messages:
    1,426
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Skyler
    Statesboro, GA
    Vehicle:
    1997 TACOMA - 4x4

    same here
     
  12. Sep 6, 2009 at 7:02 PM
    #12
    Terrier

    Terrier Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2007
    Member:
    #3288
    Messages:
    223
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2008 SR5 Access Cab 4x4 2.7
    Depends on speed and distance and gear I am in when light turns red. I used to always downshift in my other vehicles, but, I have been babying this truck in hopes of having more longevity of the clutch. I replaced the clutch in a 1988 Izusu Trooper (indestructible beast) and it was not any fun getting it apart. Actually, on second thought, I may start downshifting again since I don't really know that it necessarily wears down the clutch faster. I do not ride my clutch pedal.
     
  13. Sep 6, 2009 at 7:15 PM
    #13
    otter

    otter Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2009
    Member:
    #20249
    Messages:
    265
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rob
    MI
    Vehicle:
    09 4 cyl Reg Cab
    I do all 3, depending on the situation.
     
  14. Sep 6, 2009 at 7:16 PM
    #14
    AlexForbesR6

    AlexForbesR6 My R6 Eats Me

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2009
    Member:
    #21488
    Messages:
    612
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Alex
    Houston, TX
    Vehicle:
    07 4x4 6-Spd
    neutral all the way baby!!!
     
  15. Sep 6, 2009 at 7:21 PM
    #15
    Untamed_SS

    Untamed_SS Stayed Up Too Late

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2008
    Member:
    #10163
    Messages:
    1,962
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Adam
    Haughton, Louisiana
    Vehicle:
    08 Speedway Blue Access Cab
    Alpine iDA-X200 Deck, Rockford P3, Infinity 1600 A Amp, Black Badges, "KnightRider Mod", Back-up lights. Painted Engine Cover. TRD QuickShifter & Shift Knob. MAF Calibrator. Doug Thorley LT Headers. Custom Y-Pipe. Flowmaster 50 series. Satoshi Grill
    Mostly nuetral. Using the breaks.
     
  16. Sep 7, 2009 at 6:36 PM
    #16
    ttylerr

    ttylerr Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2009
    Member:
    #17913
    Messages:
    833
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tyler
    Fort McMurray, Alberta
    Vehicle:
    09 MGM 4Banger 4x4
    5% tint all around, Alpine IVA-W505, 16x8 Mojave Teflon Rims w/Hercules Terra Trac 265/75, Grillcraft Grill, Slimcubby HIDs, Front 5100's @ 0 w/Eibach 1.6" springs, URD Short Shifter, Extang Trifecta Tonneau Cover, Uniden Pro510XL and K30Mag Mount, Relentless Fab Bumper soon to come
    i downshift and brake, coasting in gear with the clutch pedal in wears the clutch out quicker
     
  17. Sep 7, 2009 at 6:40 PM
    #17
    tmat

    tmat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2009
    Member:
    #14394
    Messages:
    473
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Treavor
    Cypress, CA
    Vehicle:
    07 Regular Cab, PreRunner
    BHLM, de-badged, custom Manoukian flowmaster exhaust system, Bilstein 5100 front adjustable shocks set at 1.75", "smoked" foglights, Satoshi grille mod, 265/75r16 BFG T/A KO tires, AFE Pro Dry S air filter, solid rear window, Weathertech floor liners and painted grill surround
    you have to rev-match....Basically when you downshift while the clutch is depressed you hit the acceleration and try to match the rpm's with what you think they will be when you downshift. (confusing...I'm not the most articulate person). When you eventually get good people that ride with you won't even notice you downshifted!
     
  18. Sep 7, 2009 at 6:44 PM
    #18
    ttylerr

    ttylerr Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2009
    Member:
    #17913
    Messages:
    833
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tyler
    Fort McMurray, Alberta
    Vehicle:
    09 MGM 4Banger 4x4
    5% tint all around, Alpine IVA-W505, 16x8 Mojave Teflon Rims w/Hercules Terra Trac 265/75, Grillcraft Grill, Slimcubby HIDs, Front 5100's @ 0 w/Eibach 1.6" springs, URD Short Shifter, Extang Trifecta Tonneau Cover, Uniden Pro510XL and K30Mag Mount, Relentless Fab Bumper soon to come
    i've been trying to teach myself to do that but can't seem to get it right. i usually end up grinding gears :(. i think i'll just live with the little shake...
    with my truck at about 2000 rpm, i downshift and with every gear (except for first) it'll bring the rpms up to about 25-2600
     
  19. Sep 7, 2009 at 6:47 PM
    #19
    MaineYota

    MaineYota Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2009
    Member:
    #22362
    Messages:
    157
    Gender:
    Male
    Portland, Maine, USA
    Vehicle:
    '05 SR5 Doublecab
    Soft tonneau, vent shades, tube steps, bed extender, and tacomaworld.com sticker
    This.

    I've been rev-matching and heel-toe shifting for a couple of years now, and you'd be surprised how much of a difference it makes. Plus, if you do it right, you'll save a ton of wear and tear on your clutch and trans.
     
  20. Sep 7, 2009 at 6:48 PM
    #20
    jfr02

    jfr02 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2009
    Member:
    #15567
    Messages:
    233
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2012 dcsb 6spd sport
    how does coasting with the clutch in wear it out faster,if you have the clutch pedal in the clutch is disengaged.down shifting will wear you clutch faster.
     
To Top