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Clutch pedal problems...15k miles!

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by bradshawnh, Aug 28, 2017.

  1. Aug 28, 2017 at 8:19 AM
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    MOC221_

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    NO WAY I could put up with the barn door groan that long! Fuuuuuuuuck that lol
     
  2. Aug 28, 2017 at 8:22 AM
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    I had the groans, the squeaks/creaks and click in my clutch pedal on my 2003 Tacoma. Man this is bringing back so many memories. I remember it took several dealer trips to get it fixed and don't believe it was ever truly resolved. IIRC I laid on floorboard, squirted white lithium grease everywhere and anywhere I could on the clutch pedal assembly. Even got some of that crap on my carpets. IIRC it seemed to help a little or at least temporarily. Eventually Toyota had to replace the entire clutch pedal assembly, bad bushings or something...that's all I really remember them saying on the service record and who knows if that was an accurate description of what services they actually performed. Definitely an annoying problem but one that I was willing to overlook for the rest of the truck.

    Now the third gen has about 5 or 6 of these issues that I am just fed up with...but that's another story.
     
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  3. Aug 28, 2017 at 8:24 AM
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    I have had different experiences with the cold weather release, in my 2008 the clutch got its fluid from the brake reservoir and it did not have any slow release issues. My 2015 and 2017 have a separate clutch reservoir on the fender and both suffer from slow release.
     
  4. Aug 28, 2017 at 8:25 AM
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    not sure about your 2015 - but I swear mine has great days and the lack thereof..
    Some days its smooth as butter and other days its all crunchy feeling
     
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  5. Aug 28, 2017 at 8:25 AM
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    https://black-halo-racing.myshopify.com/products/black-halo-racing-reinforced-clutch-pedal
    Thats what was in my last car and it just felt so right. The motion, the feel, everything about that rx8 clutch just felt proper. Now this truck engages 60-70% up, notchy and odd. Swings up and in in a loud annoying way and im fully convinced theres a flow control valve in there somewhere to "smooth" out shifts.
     
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  6. Aug 28, 2017 at 8:30 AM
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    bradshawnh [OP] ...to the rescue!

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    I feel like I will get lucky...I go to the Toyota dealer where my old man used to be service/parts manager for like 20 years, everyone still knows me. I have some hope of good treatment!

    I'm going in tomorrow morning, I will keep you all updated!
     
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  7. Aug 28, 2017 at 8:31 AM
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    My 2000 used to do that too, I recall that there was a stupid plastic horseshoe clip on the end of the spring that would break and cause metal to metal contact.
     
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  8. Aug 28, 2017 at 8:31 AM
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    bradshawnh [OP] ...to the rescue!

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    I too would be in for some sort of completely done over clutch mechanism/pedal...remove accumulator, direct mount reservoir/upgraded tube size, metal pedal, good bushings. All seem like simple things for an OEM, but nooooooooooo. :annoyed:
     
  9. Aug 28, 2017 at 8:32 AM
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    Like this thing maybe:



     
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  10. Aug 28, 2017 at 8:34 AM
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    bradshawnh [OP] ...to the rescue!

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    Seems like it would be very simple to delete...All you need is an aluminum block drilled through with 2 proper sized pipe fittings on either end.

    Off to SolidWorks!

    This is 2 mods I will accomplish (or try to) that nobody else has done yet. I am also working on a "fog light on with high beam" mod that requires almost no modification and retains the factory switch...this is what happens when you're a mechanical engineer with access to electrical engineering resources! :rofl:
     
  11. Aug 28, 2017 at 8:38 AM
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    Yeah probably in that accumulator is something that says if you sidestep the clutch to only flow at such n such a rate. This is probably causing slow movement in the winter also as fluid inevitably ends up thicker.

    I remember one morning last winter i had fully released the clutch in first and it took a moment but the clutch engaged slowly like i was being careful. Tough to describe but it wasnt right at all. And we are talking maybe 0 degrees out. Hate to think if need my truck in the middle of the night on a snowmobile trip when its really cold!
     
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  12. Aug 28, 2017 at 8:39 AM
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    Have the same issue. Toyota says my master cylinder in the clutch assembly is busted and are waiting on the replacement part.
     
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  13. Aug 28, 2017 at 8:39 AM
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    Hmm maybe an even simpler solution would be to see if the guts of that thing could be rendered "inert" - ie drilled out or otherwise messed with. Then just re-attach the lines/bleed and go lol!
     
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  14. Aug 28, 2017 at 8:40 AM
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    Yup. That same day had me worried too. I dumped the clutch and it would literally take 1-1.5 seconds to come all the way up!
     
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    bradshawnh [OP] ...to the rescue!

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    We are going to find out that's for sure! This long weekend will give me plenty of time to give it a go.
     
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    But we are in new england. Certainly there are trucks in colder climates. How to those even work? Or does a truck going to canada have something else helping? Maybe different fluid? What do our more northern members say about cold weather clutch performance
     
  17. Aug 28, 2017 at 8:44 AM
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    Definitely interested in your results, clutch weirdness needs to go.

    Cheers man,

    Frank
     
  19. Aug 28, 2017 at 8:49 AM
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    My Canadian truck definitely does not have anything else helping. I'm not even close to living in the coldest parts of the country though. Plenty of members from NT/Yukon/ and the entire Midwest could chime in.
     
  20. Aug 28, 2017 at 11:30 AM
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    man, you are on my radar for sure... thanks for sharing. if you can come up with the right solution you'll be seeing free beer at least (for what that's worth lol).
     

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