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Clutch pedal problems...15k miles!

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by bradshawnh, Aug 28, 2017.

  1. Aug 28, 2017 at 12:28 PM
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  2. Sep 6, 2017 at 4:51 PM
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    My clutch pedal got better for a bit. Cancelled my appointment. Made no sounds at all for a few days, then it failed catastrophically today. Going to the dealer ASAP. The pedal now moves side to side 1” in either direction...not a good sign!

    I ordered a short hose to remove the accumulator. I had my father ask a Toyota field technical specialist, and none of them off hand knew what the accumulator DID. All of them seemed to think it could be bypassed without issue though, so I ordered a hose. Will do a new thread when I bypass to update on pedal feel and do a DIY! It seems pretty easy to get to and remove.
     
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  3. Sep 6, 2017 at 5:13 PM
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    had my clutch replaced at about 600 miles. was hearing a quiet bearing type noise when pressing the pedal, kind of like a bad pilot bearing. My shifts also felt notability notchy and several times I would not realize that my first gear had not gone into gear completely at dead stops until I would let the clutch out and would result in grinding the shit out of the synchro teeth. Had it test driven by an independent mechanic and then had a dealer technician ride along with me and compare to another 6MT truck they had. The Tech was advised by TAS to drop the tranny and inspect every part. He found that the clutch pressure plate was over torqued on a few bolts and the flywheel had developed hot spots from clutch still rubbing. Had entire clutch assembly and fly wheel plus all bearings replaced. Truck has been shifting smooth ever since.

    Clutch pedal occasionally shakes/creaks when under high load such as in reverse going up-hill.
     
  4. Sep 6, 2017 at 5:25 PM
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    You're going to beat me to the punch, this has been on my to-do list since the day I drove the truck home!

    Keep us posted on the hose you use, if it fits, etc.

    Also, did the squeaks get resolved? Mine started doing this recently really bad and is annoy AF, 11k miles on it. Just got back from the dealer not fixing my rear end howl too... back for another trip. Might gut it out until the 15k service.

    What do you guys think about bypassing the accumulator and any problems with warranty claim down the road if done? I want to do this so bad but also sort of don't want to risk it. But I might anyways. I guess the accumulator could always be put pack if warranty work is getting done. Thoughts?
     
  5. Sep 6, 2017 at 5:43 PM
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    It stopped squeaking and then just gave up the ghost altogether. It is so loose now it has nothing to squeak on. It feels like the pivot pin literally fell out or something it is THAT sloppy. I can fortunately still limp it along but it’s not great. It wiggles side to side an inch or more.

    I know they’ll replace it. Judging from my squeak turning into this, I’d get it fixed or keep a close eye on things at least.

    I’ve given up on the howl. I have an extended warranty, I’ll just wait for it to drop out the back and get it towed then :rofl:

    Dropping the accumulator seems common on all the Lexus forums so I don’t see why it wouldn’t work! Similar designs and executions.

    Warranty, who knows. All bets are off! It looks like it will be easy to swap back and forth minus the bleeding...
     
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  6. Sep 6, 2017 at 6:12 PM
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    When it's below freezing, I have to pump the clutch a few times to wake it up. It also makes the same noises OP describes. More "characteristics of the vehicle," is what they told me at the dealership...
     
  7. Sep 6, 2017 at 7:01 PM
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    Mine started sqeeking a month ago.
     
  8. Sep 6, 2017 at 11:16 PM
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    I got mine replaced a few days ago. I have about 6,000 miles and it was creaking pretty bad. I made an appt at my dealer, left it overnight and it was fixed the following day.
    The pedal, bushing, clutch pedal holder, torsion spring and master cylinder assembly were all replaced.
    I had a small issue that was correct the following day where I had to press the clutch extra hard in order to start the engine. That was a 20 min fix this morning at the dealer.

    there is no TSB for this as of now. It was the first my advisor had heard of this issue, but then again again manuals are rare in the wild, but the majority on the forums, right? We only exist on the Internet.
     
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  9. Sep 7, 2017 at 4:25 AM
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    Just dropped my pro off for the clutch master cylinder replacement. Started at 4K and now I’m at 20k. Tried to get it fixed sooner, but I just couldn’t make time for it.
     
  11. Feb 7, 2019 at 8:17 AM
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    Anybody have the TSB for "Normal Characteristic of the Vehicle - Clutch" ?
     
  12. Feb 7, 2019 at 8:23 AM
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    Not that I am aware of. My issue started back in July 2017. I tried to get it fixed before, but my SA would not give me a rental. Lately I haven’t notice anything, but when my kids are sleeping in my truck and the radio off is when it is at its loudest.
     
  13. Feb 7, 2019 at 8:27 AM
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    Actually, I do .. at home in my service folder. I got it done at Charles Maund on 183.

    My clutch pedal was quacking like a damn duck so at the 25k service I asked them to check it out and they came back with the TSB and replaced the whole pedal assembly + master cylinder. They also did the ECU update, so I was relatively happy with that visit.
     
  14. Feb 7, 2019 at 8:45 AM
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    You've gotta be shitting me. That's exactly who told me mine was a "Normal Characteristic of the Vehicle," or maybe "Could Not Duplicate." Mine's squeaked/quacked since day one. 52K miles now. Every Toyota truck I've ever owned has had clutch noises and I just hit it with lithium from time to time. Let us know if the fix actually works.
     
  15. Feb 7, 2019 at 9:00 AM
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    Well, it doesn't quack like a duck, more of a "normal pedal movement" sound. I think I could remedy the new noise with lubrication. Seriously the first time my kids heard the duck sound, they were like "wtf where's the duck?" So I'm sure the TSB has different parts than the original, somehow.
     
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  16. Feb 7, 2019 at 9:15 AM
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    I know what ever Toyota used for parts on the 2nd gen tsb was a complete waste of everyone’s time. I think my truck actually shifter worse after they worked on it than before. Squeak was back in no time too
     
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  17. Feb 7, 2019 at 9:39 AM
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    I really don't understand all the notchy, squeaky, TSB stuff here. Mine was squeaky and notchy too so I grabbed some brake grease and lubed the pivot points and spring. It took me less than a minute and it's been smooth and quiet for the 3 years since I did it.

    I absolutely think that Toyota should have lubed it in the factory but there's no way I'd waste hours of my time and let someone replace all of those components when the fix is so damn easy
     
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    I just got off the phone with my SA. There is a TSB and now they need to order more parts . Hopefully this will resolve the issue.
     
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    Picked my truck up from the dealer and now the clutch pedal has the worst fell. The clutch catch point is approximately 1” from the floor and the rest is very “spring-y”. Can this be fixed??
     
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