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Cold, won't shift

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by betardfoosier, Nov 4, 2010.

  1. Nov 4, 2010 at 6:16 AM
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    betardfoosier

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    Last couple mornings have been in the low 40's where I live, and when the trans is cold in the morning, it will NOT shift into any gear. It takes me a minute or so to get it into first, then its really tough in all gears till I go a couple miles. This morning, I had to start in second, because first was completely inaccessible. After it warms up, shifts perfectly. :confused: Clutch does not slip, 100,000 miles on truck. Taking truck into shop on monday to replace front cv boot, Guess I will have them check the tranny too. :(
     
  2. Nov 4, 2010 at 9:18 AM
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    Drain the trans and go with a synetheic, gear oil, would be my first move.
     
  3. Nov 4, 2010 at 9:19 AM
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  4. Nov 4, 2010 at 9:38 AM
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    I do have a gallon of mt-90 that just showed up yesterday, do you really think it will make that drastic of a change? Seems like a mechanical issue to me, Feels like I don't even have the clutch in. Just will not go in.
     
  5. Nov 4, 2010 at 9:39 AM
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    Have you checked the clutch fluid?
     
  6. Nov 4, 2010 at 9:41 AM
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    well the fact that it does fine when warm makes me think changing to mt-90 will help a lot.

    def check all the clutch components though (pedal free play, fluid level).
     
  7. Nov 4, 2010 at 9:55 AM
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    I had the same problem when I changed the gear oil in my 1st gen one time. I changed it with regular gear oil, couldn't shift just as you describe. Drained it again and went with Amsoil Severe Gear.....ouila problem solved and shifted better than ever.
     
  8. Nov 4, 2010 at 10:03 AM
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    Im having the exact same issue, only mine has only been happening up in the mountains. I thought it had to do with the altitude, but now that you mention it, it's been in the low 40's both times when it happened to me... are you any higher than 7500 ft or so?
     
  9. Nov 4, 2010 at 11:17 AM
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    Nope, I'm in Kansas. My clutch is fine, I can hear my kanky input bearing come to a stop when I put my clutch in. I will dump my MT90 in and see what happens. Thanks guys!
     
  10. Nov 4, 2010 at 11:21 AM
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    cool deal, mine shifts great even when its 15* out with the synthetic.
     
  11. Nov 4, 2010 at 12:23 PM
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    Ima give that shot too... thanks guys.
     
  12. Nov 7, 2010 at 1:18 PM
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    It is the fluid!!! When trans warms up, oil gets more viscus(sp).
     
  13. Feb 9, 2011 at 8:25 AM
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    Great old post! I just bought my truck and they must of warmed it up REAL good before I came over to test drive it and buy it. The next morning it wouldn't go into gear until hot!

    Do I have to do the transfer case too when I do the trans? I can only find 3 quarts of Redline MT90 locally. That's enough to do the transmission but I need another 1.2qts to do the transfer case.

    Oh yeah my current transmission fluid in the dark grey/black! Yuck!
     
  14. Feb 9, 2011 at 8:38 AM
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    ive gotta change my trans fluid because every time i start my truck cold and go for a drive it doenst wanna shift gears, it drags them out but once it warms up it shifts fine but gets annoying after awhile.
     
  15. Feb 9, 2011 at 8:53 AM
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    Had the same issue myself. Often skipped second gear on cold mornings due to impossible shift. Changed the fluid to something from Advance Auto and it was just as bad. Ordered Amsoil Sever Gear and that has helped significantly, although on mornings in the teens it can still be a little rough. After the first shift into second, from there out all shifts are smooth as silk.
     
  16. Feb 9, 2011 at 8:56 AM
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    so the amsoil sever gear is what i would need
     
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    I have mobile 1 75w-90 in the transfer case and both diffs. The only thing with mt-90 is the tranny.
     
  18. Feb 9, 2011 at 9:03 AM
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    Seems weird 40 degrees isnt that cold. My manual transmission gets a little hard to shift when its below 0 but once it runs for a few mins and I start driving it loosens up.
     
  19. Feb 9, 2011 at 9:04 AM
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    x2, its my battery that has trouble at those temps lol
     
  20. Feb 9, 2011 at 9:04 AM
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    yea but autos are a little diffrent i think.
     
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