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Collinite 845

Discussion in 'Detailing' started by NMTrailRider, Jun 14, 2015.

  1. Jun 14, 2015 at 12:11 PM
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    NMTrailRider

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    so is Collinite 845 a sealant or a wax? In my research on here it seems some guys refer to it as a sealant and some refer to it as a wax. And several people recommend putting it on top of a sealant like jet seal. Reading the description on the Collinite website- it sounds like it is both a sealant and a wax. So then why are guys putting it on top of jet seal. Ok guys, set me straight...

    Is it a sealant or a wax?
    Or both?
    Ok on its own or better over jet dry?
     
  2. Jun 16, 2015 at 10:05 AM
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    IMO, Collinite 845 is a wax since it is carnauba based where as sealants are polymer based. I've never used Jet Seal but I can't think of any negative reasons not to use Collinite as a topper.
     
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  3. Jun 19, 2015 at 4:37 AM
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    Its a 'wax' because it contains carnauba but really its a hybrid. Which is the case with a lot of over the counter stuff. Either way, great product. I usually switch over to 845 for winter maintenance work
     
  4. Jul 10, 2015 at 6:14 AM
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    I would consider it a wax as well. The secret that I found is to spread it really thin. I use it on my vehicles right before winter and the stuff is bullet proof.
     
  5. Nov 9, 2015 at 8:46 PM
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    Bump. Any new thoughts on this one?
     
  6. Nov 10, 2015 at 8:10 PM
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    I agree with Mr. sparkle...it's a wax with sealant durability. Good stuff
     
  7. Nov 12, 2015 at 6:34 PM
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    FYI I tried the 476 today. Removal was a bear. So bad that I was worried about scratching the clear with even the best of towels. I tried removing immediately after application, after it hazed, after it dried, everywhere in between. Super thin application. I likely won't play with it again. As much as I enjoy waxing, I'd do anything else more frequently rather than try the 476 again.
     
  8. Nov 12, 2015 at 8:33 PM
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    Jeez you must be addicted to waxes/sealants. 845 is good....really good. I wouldn't bother with 476 if it is that hard to remove. Lol.
     
  9. Nov 12, 2015 at 9:21 PM
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    Ha yeah I'm hooked. I just like trying out different products and trying to one-up myself. But I think I'm done for the year! Weather is gonna change. Just wanted to get something on that's gonna last me until April.
     
  10. Nov 13, 2015 at 6:34 AM
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    You need to try Optimum gloss coat. 2 year coating that can be layered with wax if you like. The beading is amazing. Don't think I will ever use a regular wax or sealant again.
     
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    Thanks- I've been doing some reading about coatings over at autogeek. Any reason you went with optimum and not one of the others?
     
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    Well, gotta say- the 476 looks awesome a day later. Incredible reflections.
     
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    I was originally going with cquartz, then I came across Gloss Coat....it has more pop to it. Plus I have a wax addiction like you, so thought it would be nice to use them up. Lol
     
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    The 476 is really bringing out the flake in the pyrite mica. Amazing stuff. This is the edge of my hood looking down on the bug deflector.

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    I used 476 on my Truck too, it is a little harder too remove than normal wax but was not that bad.
     
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    I am very new to wax/detailing... I have a new 2016 Tacoma and wanted to put a protective wax on. I purchased Collonite 845 and applied after a normal wash. I'm now realizing I have some water spots and should have dried and used a clay bar and detailing spray prior to the application of collonite.

    To remove I've seen recommendations to simply wash car with a mixture of dawn soap. Does this seem correct? Any suggestions on any change in plan aside from wash with dawn soap, claybar with detailing spray, then application of collonite 845?

    Many years ago I had simply used Zymol wax cleaner... I'm contemplating whether a simple person like myself should return to that? I'd appreciate your suggestions.
     
  17. Jan 17, 2016 at 11:09 AM
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    You can just go ahead and clay now (after a wash with car wash soap)- no need to wash with dawn. Claying will remove "some" of the wax, as well as any above surface bonded contaminents. If that doesn't remove the water spots, a light polish might be required. When you are done, go ahead and reapply the Collinite.
     
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  18. Jan 17, 2016 at 11:16 AM
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    Some guys have done experiments with "dawn washes". What's actually happening is that surfactants in the soap remain on the surface after a dawn wash. And this gives the illusion of the wax being "washed off". They then do a isopropyl alcohol wipe down, and the beading properties of the wax return (i.e, surfactants removed), illustrating that dawn isn't really removing the wax.

    A wash with dawn once in awhile probably won't hurt, but it will dry out rubber eventually. I've had vehicles in the past show drying of seals when I used to use dish soap before I knew how to properly wash a vehicle. Why use it when you don't have to. Just use a car wash soap. Claying/polishing will remove most of whatever wax you laid down.
     
  19. Jan 17, 2016 at 11:18 AM
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    Thanks - very helpful. My plan will be to wash with car wash soap, detail spray / clay all surfaces, then apply the collonite 845. For all plastic and soft surfaces I'm applying 303 protectant and that is my current plan - anything else you'd recommend for someone trying to keep it simple yet protect the vehicle?
     
  20. Jan 17, 2016 at 11:24 AM
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    There are also dedicated pre-wax cleaner products to accomplish what you are after- Meguires Ultimate Polish would work as a good pre wax paint cleanser also. Lots of polishing oils and would do well on dark colored paint. A quality all-in-one, such as Meguires new Mirror Bright Polishing Wax, would also work for you- and you could even top it with Collinite. That might really be nice.
     

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