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Discussion in 'Audio & Video' started by drzman49, Sep 12, 2010.

  1. Sep 12, 2010 at 4:07 PM
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    drzman49

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    I just installed an alpine component speaker in my tacoma 2011, with stock single cd player/radio. Without amplifier at this point, the sound lacks significant mid bass range, while the stock speaker (still hooked up to the passenger side) supplying significant bass.

    I am not looking for subwoofer range, just mid bass.

    I spent about 100 dollars on the alpine 600c speakers.

    Questions:
    1. will an amp bring in the bass range to the alpine speakers.
    2. Should I consider an after market head unit.

    Thanks
    Dave
     
  2. Sep 12, 2010 at 5:34 PM
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    the factory hu is not enough to power components properly. i have components amped with factory hu and its waaaay better although adding an aftermarket hu would increase significantly more. I do also have a sub so its kinda hard to answer if midbass is enough.
     
  3. Sep 12, 2010 at 6:06 PM
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    So you mean to say you have an amplifier attached to the hu, or you are using the factory hu amp?
     
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    The component will not provide the bass you are looking for. Although the woofer is designed as a mid bass driver, it will usually not provide the full sound that I think you are looking for. An aftermarket Hu will definitely play louder but an amp will make play louder than just hooked up to the Aftermarket Hu as well. Maybe just get some 6x9s for the back to fill that bass if you don't intend on getting a sub?
     
  5. Sep 13, 2010 at 10:18 AM
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    If you aren't going to really put in a lot of money to the system and don't plan on getting a sub but still want bass you should really get a 6x9 up front.

    They'll have way more cone area than a traditional 6.5" midbass so they should be fairly efficient and make better use of whatever power is available.

    That's not to say that a 6.5" speaker can't reproduce good bass frequencies because they certainly can. I can prove it.
     
  6. Sep 13, 2010 at 9:06 PM
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    I agree with the 6x9, did not realize till later it would have fit. But with what I did get, will an amp bring out the potential of midbase on my 6.5 components?

    I have a super system in my performance car I use most of the time, this is my second vehicle (Tacoma regular cab) for trips to the mountains, did not want to spend 500 to 1000 bucks, would be willing to get a modest amp though if it would bring out the full range in the components including mid base.

    By your "I can prove it" comment, I assume (correct me if I am wrong) you suggest a modest amp will do what I would like, which is at least capture the bass range that the relatively cheap factory speakers are able to capture (though with the cost of poor definition)

    Otherwise, I can try to resell the 6.5's and just get some non component 6x9's.

    Thanks
     
  7. Sep 13, 2010 at 9:33 PM
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    I have 100RMS going to each of my midbass but you don't need that much at all. You just need a speaker that plays midbass frequencies well.

    There are two types of midbass deficiencies. The first is a speaker incapable of playing a frequency that low at a high level. Then there is the deficiency where it CAN play that frequency and at the output level you want but the ratio of that sound to others sounds (highs and mids) is very low. The first deficiency can't be fixed; the second type can be fixed with EQ or processing.

    If you can find a balanced speaker for the application that needs no EQ you've struck gold. You might want to try a set of the Phoenix Gold RSD 6.5" speakers. They are a component set and have great midbass. They wont break the bank either.
     
  8. Sep 13, 2010 at 9:58 PM
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    so do you think my 600c alpines, given my description, are not going to do the job I want, but I should either get non component 6 x 9's, or the components you recommend.

    This time, listening carefully at the store first, though still no insurance will play same in car.

    Appreciate your knowledge.
    Dave
     
  9. Sep 13, 2010 at 10:07 PM
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    now I see the specs for the alpines says range is 70 HZ and up
    http://www.alpine-usa.com/product/view/sps-600c/Specs

    Your Phoenix Golds are 40 hz and up, surely the low end of the bass for a woofer (according to my limited knowledge of these things).

    At 70 HZ, for the alpines, it would still seem that I should be able to get more bass then I do though.
     
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