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Cooling issues? Not anymore

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Deo taco, Aug 25, 2020.

  1. Aug 26, 2020 at 1:49 PM
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    Deo taco

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    i also read my signature. you are talking to a engineer who worked on cooling issues in track racing applications. dont know how much more weight i can give you.

    hey bill nye... is the earth round?

    Bill Nye- Yes.....

    But can you give me data supporting that?
     
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  2. Aug 26, 2020 at 1:50 PM
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    So something else here, not automotive related, but includes temperature numbers. PC water cooling!
    https://www.ekwb.com/blog/push-pull-or-push-pull-on-radiators/

    Push provides good cooling, pull provides better cooling, push and pull provides the best cooling.

    Im running push and pull with the OEM tsb solution.
     
  3. Aug 26, 2020 at 1:56 PM
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    Push provides good cooling, pull provides better cooling, push and pull provides the best cooling.

    push = good, pull is best, push pull is best only in static air aka no motion of the vehicle
     
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  4. Aug 26, 2020 at 2:00 PM
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    So like offroading at low speeds, or sitting in traffic?
     
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    It would be a better comparison if Bill Nye were trying to sell a product but offering no direct proof of how well that product works. I notice you did the same thing in the Supercharger thread; people started asking for Dyno numbers and you start posting pictures of an electric fan you’re working on....
     
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    both but its a give and take. best option large puller. adding a push will help down low but hurt at speed due to the dead zone
     
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    its only bc i dont have a dyno run to share....... not happy but magnuson wont release theirs yet and and the one i installed in not in this state...........................................................................
     
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    sorry man just being a smart ass
    here is some data on static ability alone
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    I get that, but if I were selling a product which adds HP I would back it up with Dyno numbers, even if that meant making two trips out of state (one before the install and one after). Everything else just seems like conjecture.
     
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    I'm also interested. Please explain: "This will be run by a controller unit with customer set 40% start command temp. And 100% command temp along with user override on command."
    Does this mean that we can choose what temp our truck will run at?
     
  11. Aug 26, 2020 at 2:14 PM
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    i means that you can choose what temperature the fan starts at. and ramps up to 100% at. so you can have it start at 180 degrees at 40% speed. and it will linear ramp up to 100% by 200 is that is where you set is. thermal stabilization can happen anywhere in between setting the fan at a tempature below the thermostat rating is not a great idea fan will run but the water isnt.
     
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    The Tacomas spec’d for sale in Mexico have a pusher fan in front of the AC. It’s not for engine cooler but rather to help the anemic AC performance at idle and stopngo
     
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    In!!!!
     
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    4 it's a tsb aka may not be free.
     
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    A TSB is free. It’s designed for trucks that are still under warranty. Sure, you can ask the dealer to have it done outside of warranty and they’ll probably be happy to charge you but c’mon who does that
     
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    I am interested in this as well. I am curious once the prototype is up and running what the drivabilty improvements are (mpg, power,etc). I would assume it would help quite a bit. In the winter the I can hear the fan running on cold starts which obviously reduces power and likely makes the engine take longer to warm up. Plus It would be nice to remove some moving parts up there. Now we just need an electric AC compressor....

    Now I have a question for my own curiosity. Why is the fan clutch active when it is cold out (less than 10F) on cold starts?
     
  17. Aug 26, 2020 at 2:26 PM
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    In certain low speed (and possibly high speed?) situations the ECU will limit Torque, even with pedal to the floor, because Toyota??? Who knows why, but I think that's what @tonered is referencing
     
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    More load on the truck to Warm the truck up faster? Idk but I know there’s an optimal operating range.
     
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    :hattip:

    Yup. The ECU calculates a target torque output. You get what it wants you to get. Even the tunes have a limit that can't be defeated (yet).

     
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    That, and the fan clutch needs to warm up a bit. It drops off pretty quickly.
     
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