Correct Wheel/Tire Balancing (LUG CENTRIC)

I have done the force balance without rings and its fine. It does work. The rings are definitely a necessity because I would imagine anytime the wheels come off, they will never go back on 100% the way they came off. So, even though I might not have vibrations now, it might come back at anytime once the wheels get removed.
The exact ring size is 108 to 106.1. Is this correct for 2014 Tacoma?

 

Will a hub ring with inner diameter of 106.1 still fit? Worried about precise tolerance on these hub rings.

 

just got my third set of Michelin Latitudes on my Tacoma's factory alloys and Discount never has never been able to balance them on the first try. Every time I've had the dealer balance when in for service and they get it right. What is the dealer doing that discount is not. Is Discount not setting the offset, not putting on machine right. My brother had the same problem on his 4 Runner is there a trick with Toyota wheels or is Discount skipping some steps?

 

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im currently looking at a set of moto metal rims for my tacoma the specs on the rims are 17x9 6x5.5 106.25 bore. would i still need bore rings or will these fit centered?

 

I have icon rebound rims on my 2020 tacoma..they have a 106 mm hub bore but they also told me they are lug centric ..my installer told me.it does not matter and would not use the lug centric adapter...my balance def.feels off...since the hub is 106 and so is the rim but the manufacturer straight.up said they are.lug centric ,do you think it will make a difference to make sure he does them lug centric or will it.not.matter??? I hate having to be that guy that fights with the tech but.i also cant enjoy my new ride if its constantly feeling a little off.

 

In order to be a true hub centric, it must have a 106 bore and use flat washered lug nuts.
What you have is in between; the bore is trying to make it hub centric and the conical lugs are trying to make it lug centric.
The problem is if the bolt circle center does not coincide with the hub circle center. They fight each other.
The best thing to do is have it mounted on the machine to replicate how it will mount on the vehicle. This means a fitted collet for the hub and outside plate that duplicates conical lugs...and hope the centers coincide.

They can check by: balancing, dismounting, remounting in a different position and checking balance again.

 

take off the center cap and see if there is a gap around the hub. That will tell you if it is lug or hub centric.

 

If they don’t use the Haweka adapter it will more than likely be off. Having previously worked at discount tire I’ve balance thousands of wheels. Each manufacturer has a specific adapter they like used. If you get a lazy tech that uses the generic cone it being done incorrectly.

 

I appreciate the info. Trying to get someone willing to do that and to undo it and redo it seems impossible..everyones in a rush and dont care if its not their vehicke it seems...the guy who just did it told me to bring it back if theres any issues but when I call he tells me hes sure its fine for now and he cant get me in for a few weeks so guess I am paying someone else to hopefully take the time to do it right . thanks again man

 

With lug centric, you'll want to gradually apply increasing torque when tightening, in the air. This insures the wheel centers off the lugs.
Since yours is in between, it may or may not make a difference. But it will replicate how it was mounted on the machine accurately; no weight on it.

 

My wheels ended up riding better when lugcentric instead of hubcentric.

 

I always felt like hub rings are for those who don't know how to torque rims. I'll use them if they are free, but if the rim is using lug centric, I install it as such.

In the end, quality tires and quality rims are the key.

Not roadforce balancing and all this other crap.

The original post was the old BFG tires which balanced like mud terrains. Absolute crap.

 

I think one thing to remember especially when tightening a lugcentric wheel is to do it while the wheel is not weighted down. I normally lower that wheel down just until it barely touches the ground so that it doesn't spin when retorquing.