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COVID-19 PSA. Read this and get your head in the game

Discussion in 'Health' started by scocar, Mar 13, 2020.

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  1. Mar 13, 2020 at 9:55 AM
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    09TRDSport4x4

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    Fatalities shouldn’t be the main focal point. The objective of travel limitation and banning mass gatherings is to slow the exponential growth rate of the spread of the disease. The lower that rate, the less overall people will be exposed, infected and ultimately, more lives are saved. Regardless of age or demographic.

    If people continue to ignore the warnings and act like nothing is happening, the growth rate will remain high and the spread will be much, much larger. Containment is basically out of the equation at this point, but flattening the overall curve is in the best interest of everyone. It will limit the total death toll and give science (and nature) a chance to develop vaccine/immunity.

    Not to sound heartless or like a machine, but removing emotion and bias completely from the situation, it’s all about the logic and math. Flattening the exponential growth curve, that should be the main focal point for everyone right now. It will ultimately save the most people and return life to “normal” the fastest.
     
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  2. Mar 13, 2020 at 9:56 AM
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    to me it's really about not over whelming the hospitals. most of us are going to be fine if we get it, but if the entire population got it at once, we don't have enough beds to support the ill
     
  3. Mar 13, 2020 at 10:10 AM
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    To answer your question, yes.

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...tion=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage
     
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  4. Mar 13, 2020 at 10:16 AM
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  5. Mar 13, 2020 at 10:18 AM
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    Heartbreaking story, huh? There seems to be a certain percentage of younger people who just get destroyed by the virus for whatever reason. It's not the norm, but it is happening. The real danger for younger people is just being a carrier and passing it along to the higher risks groups. Yeah, maybe you can go to ball game and be fine, but what you bring home might kill grandma. No one wants that.
     
  7. Mar 13, 2020 at 10:30 AM
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    To be fair, he probably didn't know what he was dealing with early enough. But from what I've seen, this isn't a disease that isn't guaranteed to not leave lasting damage - especially without prompt medical care, which is the thing that might be tough to get if things go pear shaped.
     
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  8. Mar 13, 2020 at 10:30 AM
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    San Diego Unified School District and surrounding school districts closed starting Monday. People are finally starting to understand that this needs to be taken seriously.
     
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  9. Mar 13, 2020 at 10:32 AM
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    Stats are out there. Bottom line is that age doesn't matter to spreading it. We all may carry but not be symptomatic. That is the basis of this social distancing protocol.

    Ignore age information, other than identifying that you are at high risk because of age or medical condition.

    We just cancelled a flight to Chicago with our 4-yo to visit my MIL who just started chemo about 2 months ago. Because can you say "can you be any stupidier"?

    Many conflicting emotions. What do you do when faced with decisions like that?

    You do the right thing by not going, for the better of not only your immediate family, but for all of society.

    Don't be a selfish vector.
     
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  10. Mar 13, 2020 at 10:36 AM
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    Thanks for your patience and persistence, JBalls.

    Those articles made it click for our family. Our path became clear. When reading headlines this morning, it struck me that the best sharing I could do was with TW. All of of North America and beyond.

    Oppressing the toddler members of this forum is a noble cause. Stiff upper lip, mate. We all have our roles to play. :thumbsup:

    Beer is on me next time. Maybe even bourbon. Hit me up when you are passing through.
     
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    I still think its being blown out of proportion. I just wish the media would fuck off with it. The only difference between it and the flu is that we can vaccinate for one of them... and even then it's been polled that only 50% get them. The flu is just as dangerous to the same demographics.

    "annual influenza epidemics result in about 3-5 million cases of severe illness and about 250,000 to 500,000 deaths worldwide"... Live count for Corona per CNN is estimated at 125k globally and an estimate of 3-5k deaths. Looking at different survavability odds of 25 to 1 vs 10 to 1, but still. 416k per month vs 125k in a quarter is where the stats will be interesting (in regards to your article). How much will it accelerate?
     
  12. Mar 13, 2020 at 10:39 AM
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    "25 to 1 vs 10 to 1, but still"

    :facepalm:
     
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    ...too much shit to list.
    You are right about the media. But you are forgetting mortality rate. That's a big difference in odds.
     
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    Good post.

    I included mortality rate. I also included estimated level of vaccinations. This is a "new" virus that didn't have similar safeguards.
     
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    Really?
    So is the whole thing proof that your politics are better than others?
     
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    Dude,
    Don’t start leading this thread down to being removed.

    It’s a factual information on the current state of the virus thread.
     
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    Stop fixating on mortality stats and just focus on everyone's responsibility to not be a vector. If that is ignored, mortality will increase. Figure it out.
     
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    I'm going to take the truck and self isolate now in the woods, thanks.
     
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    Those are pretty big conclusions to jump to. Please don't assume and make this political. Americans are conditioned to consume. Hell, even the Chinese are still pretending to be communist. Media doesn't help. Teaching critical thinking would. People would rather buy a bottle of pills than expend the effort to diet and exercise.
     
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    A) 125K is under reported. how much? who knows. we are only doing some 1400 tests a day in the states. I suspect a portion of those are retests like Carl that has been quarantined for 35 days or so.

    B) yes it won't kill a vast majority of us, but if we all run around and get sick at the same time those that go critical won't be able to get proper treatment in the hospital and people that could have survived with medical care won't.
     
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