Crank won’t turn

If she’s blown, and you wanna keep her for awhile, I would suggest looking into a Jasper replacement, if you’re gonna go reman, why not go further than reman.

 

Put the camera in one of the spark pug holes that has an open valve and shine a bright light through the valve.

See if you can see rust all over the bore.

You won't tell much from underneath if all the rust is in the bores. If it didn't throw a rod, you SHOULD be able to get it freed up. If it threw a rod you would prob. see it sticking out of the block.

engine bearings don't rust.

 

As deep in it as of now

 

There are no holes in the block

 

It actually looks pretty good.
Moonshine oil makes me wonder if fuel was in it, not water.

These things are hard to get water in just sitting and i have no idea if your near an ocean.

I wonder if a timing component is jammed?

I wouldn't just go bumpstarting it just yet.

 

That looks really clean on the top end.

 

Hope you didnt pay more than $1000 for that truck.

 

I find it strange that a fuel pump and starter would go out at the same time, plus the body damage.... Could this have possibly been a flood vehicle?

 

How much you want for the truck lol

 

The body damage is from a tbone accident. So it was running when it got hit. Not sure what happen to the front end. It wasn’t a flood car. I bought the truck for $800. Pluse a law rh front door and a starter. I’m in about $1000 as of now. I pulled the oil pan today not metal in the bottom of it and what I can see up inside nothing is broken. The timing chains look good. What’s my next step?

 

Look at the bores. You have a camera.

If that's clean the problem is up front or in back.

Edit: You still haven't given a location (beach town?) and what condition the engine was in when you got it.

Were the plugs pulled? Manifold off?

It's hard for an engine to seize from just sitting. (Unless it had been flooded) so I'm betting the engine's fine and something ancillary is binding up.

Edit 2: Some background is, I bought an old Ford in '87 (model was '67) that had been sitting with no manifold or plugs in it, in a driveway for over ten years. After soaking with Marvel oil, it freed up. I live in a coastal town also.

 

When you changed the starter, what did it look like? Inside the flywheel area of the engine and the starter itself. Anything rusty looking?)

A previous poster mentioned looking at the trans. fluid. You could or just drain enough to see if there's water in there. (flood question still)

That engine just looks too clean to say it's junked.

back to the oil smell, do you think it may have been gassy? Was it above normal level? Fuel will hydrolock an engine and bend a rod. Are you SURE when you looked from the bottom, all the rods were straight?

edit: I did pull apart a Camry engine once that had ran into a ditch full of water, hydrolocking it, it looked as clean as yours but had a bent rod and a broken one also. Actually changing those two out made a great engine once again (but the heads had to come off)

 

Transmission in in neutral,and the engine still wont turn?

 

this is what I got.I do collision work that's why the body is no big deal.one of my old writers was leaving tow moving away.it was his kids truck.I sat on it till it had to leave the property.so i gave him $800 for the truck.younger kid didn't know that much about stuff.he thought it was the fuel pump then maybe the starter.I towed it to my place in neutral. turned it over starter was shot.put a new starter in it turns but wont turn the motor.as for stuff being of the truck i will say no it was all on when i got it and when i took it apart you can tell the bolts haven't been touched.as for flooded i don't think so it was back in on a up hill drive way.they live about 10 mins from me and we haven't gotten any floods that would be that high at there place.I live in summerville SC about 35 min to the coast
The oil smell didn't smell gassy.I took it to work my helper said it smelled like moonshine.as for me I that it smelled like southern comfort .he smells like hard liqueur.the old starter look fine it was all inside it.the flywheel i can see some rust in the hole I kinda think that might be the problem. from the bottom of the oil pan i could only see the rods they looked good didn't look bent and where not broken. the old owner said it ran like a champ.

yes its in neutral

 

Put an ounce of Kroil [Eds Red will evaporate all the acetone out of the mix used like this] in each cylinder and let it sit a couple of days. If that doesn't free the pistons up then you have a true mechanical failure.

 

I don't know what moonshine smells like, laughs. I thought it had no odor. Southern Comfort smells sweet as does Liqueur, do you mean just liquor? Like alcohol?

Did you smell the oil after putting Marvel in the cylinders? Maybe that's the smell?

I don't really know whether to trust the kid or not, every car is 'running 'til it got parked'.


What does "Turns but won't turn the motor" mean? The key turns but that's all?

Have you, with the breaker bar, moved it back and forth, CW and CCW and still get absolutely no movement? Even a seized engine will eventually give a fraction of a turn. If not, I'd watch everything as someone else put pressure, timing chain, crank from underneath. Watch for wherever the force is getting stopped.

 

Put a little auto trans fluid in each cylinder via the spark lug hole and let it sit overnight. I used to do this for seized motors all the time, it'll free it up. It'll smoke like he'll, but it works.

 

yes like alcohol.the oil smelled like that right out of the pan before i put any thing in the block.the starter turns then locks up like it cant turn the motor.i have tried both cw and ccw with the top end off no plugs no oil pan and the crank still wont move.

 

Well, the oil smell is a quandary. I'm assuming it didn't look strange and wasn't over the fill mark?

The transmission has to be working if you pulled it home. If the clutch were seized you could still start it in neutral so don't worry about rusty looking in there. Pretty normal anyway for some.

I dunno, man. I've never seen one not get ANY movement whatsoever after some oil in there.


And the bores from underneath that you can see are all clean and shiny?

If it's rusted up above the pistons it would be below them also.

If you're pulling it back and forth from your house to work, I don't think I could have resisted NOT trying to bump start it, laughs.

edit: How about a pic from underneath tomorrow.

edit 2: I see you have 2 pics of the same head, have you pulled the other valve cover?