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Crimp connectors

Discussion in 'Audio & Video' started by primer, Mar 27, 2011.

  1. Mar 27, 2011 at 8:22 AM
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    primer [OP] Well-Known Member

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    This isn't specific to A&V but I figured this is the forum that would have the most input and it certainly applies.

    I'm looking for advice on crimp connectors. I've used a variety of spade and bullet crimp connectors with frustrating results.

    I simply can't reliably crimp the connectors to a wire. (Insert "you're a wimp" comment here) I'm really not a complete wus. But regardless it shouldn't be that hard. I use my wire striper/cutter/crimper combo tool to crimp. It takes me several teeth gritting attempts to get the wire locked in. I see them used by others and can't imagine everyone puts up with this.

    Is there a particular brand of connector that works well? Is there a better tool to crimp with?

    Thanks

    TL
     
  2. Mar 27, 2011 at 9:30 AM
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    ItalynStylion

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    If I'm forced to use connections like that I typically strip close to double the amount of wire I'll need. Then I fold over the end about 75% back on itself. Then I stick that in the connector and crimp that in. It gives the terminal a lot more to hold onto.
     
  3. Mar 27, 2011 at 9:35 AM
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    I used tons of crimp connectors on my truck, as long as you use the correct crimp for the guage you are fine, I put 18g in a 12-10 crimp and it slipped out after being crimped
     
  4. Mar 27, 2011 at 9:40 AM
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    Thanks.

    That may be my problem. The wire I used was smaller than 18g. It's possible that doubling it would help. Or just getting the right sized connector. Sounds like there's not a specific tool or anything.

    Thanks again.

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  5. Mar 27, 2011 at 2:48 PM
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    Solder. It makes a better connection.
     
  6. Mar 27, 2011 at 2:51 PM
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    Agreed. But it frustrates me that I can't make a crimp connector work.
     
  7. Mar 27, 2011 at 2:57 PM
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    Sometimes it's not always a good idea. Sometimes you want to be able to take the wires off every once in a while. But I agree for fixed usage it's the best for sure.
     
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    Maybe you need a better crimp tool.
     
  9. Mar 27, 2011 at 7:02 PM
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    That was my original thought. Which begs the question - do you recommend a particular crimp tool...
     
  10. Mar 27, 2011 at 7:05 PM
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    Crimped connections ARE suitable for automotive use - with all the attendant vibration.

    1. Use the right size crimp for the wire you're using

    2. Use a ratchet crimper. I THINK the one I use is 69555K62 from the following page:

    http://www.mcmaster.com/#wire-crimpers/=bmez15
     
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    This, if a crimp must be used.
     
  12. Mar 27, 2011 at 7:06 PM
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    If you can double the wire back - it means you're using too big a crimp connector for the wire.
     
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    I'll bet these would be good. Not sure I do this enough to warrant the cost.



    I'll bet this is good advice - and the source of my problem. I definitely had a lot of room around the wire and could have doubled it.


    This is what I've been using. As everyone has mentioned - I think my connectors are too large for my wire. NOTE edit - used to say too small - thanks bjmoose.

    Thanks all.
     
  15. Mar 27, 2011 at 7:48 PM
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    I hope you're not using the 5 dollar tool from the auto parts store. Those suck. I have a klein crimper and a seperate klein stripper. Use them every day at work with no issues at all. I should have just spent the money and got the right tools a long time ago. Use the right tool and the correct terminal for each size wire and you should have no issues.

    Edit: Home Depot should have them both at a decent price. I want to say like 35 bucks for the crimper and 20 for the stripper I have.

    Edit: Here's the type of crimper I have: http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc...splay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

    and stripper http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc...splay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053
     
  16. Mar 27, 2011 at 10:50 PM
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    I'm guessing you just misspoke here, but if you can double the wire back - it means the connectors are TOO BIG - (although the numeric wire gauge number would be lower - perhaps that's what you meant.)

    Don't mean to pick nits on a typo, but don't want a misunderstanding to slip through either.
     
  17. Mar 28, 2011 at 6:20 AM
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  18. Mar 28, 2011 at 6:22 AM
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    VERY good point. You are correct I just typed it wrong. I've edited the original post to avoid more confusion.

    Thanks

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