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Dasaita Head Unit for 2nd Gen Tacoma

Discussion in 'Audio & Video' started by mcgrath.travism, Jul 18, 2019.

  1. Feb 1, 2021 at 2:10 PM
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    Ya, all those things are a go. I'm unfortunately stuck at android 9 but it still kicks ass in my opinion. The app that doesn't seem to get along with it is netflix. Other than that, it is a basic android tablet. Root away!
     
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  2. Feb 1, 2021 at 2:32 PM
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    That's great news. How does it tap into steering wheel controls? Was that posted in here?
     
  3. Feb 1, 2021 at 2:36 PM
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    Yes pretty much all your questions are answered throughout the thread. I would suggest giving it a once over before you buy.

    It has a plug n play harness for the steering wheel controls.

    I dig it a lot. But I do find my self needing to reboot it sometimes, but honestly all android products need to at some point.
     
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    It's about as Android as you can get and not be a straight up tablet. It's not really an Android phone (no direct LTE, but LTE modem via USB), but it has things a phone normally doesn't - amplifier, satellite GPS, A/V I/O and radio tuner - that require special accommodations to work in Android. It has bluetooth for all the flavors of data connection just like a phone would have, but it also has the voice logic to let you make paired calls through the headunit using your separate phone. There are a lot of edge case activities that expose some of the rough points in making things work together, but there are an amazing number of hacks/solutions on XDA that seem to be available.

    It seems the full spectrum of launchers are available - I've used Nova and Agama without issue. Currently using FCCLauncher and starting to get a better appreciation for the "widget" approach. When you're internet connected, all of the Google products work as expected. There are some rough edges around the manner in which contacts are synchronized. I think the security model in modern Android makes a lot of the simple automation from the days of KitKat much more difficult.

    There is a learning curve to using these devices. They have a basic functionality that is more an unsophisticated radio and the rudimentary software interface is brute force level usable. But if you have Android experience, then it should be familiar territory to modify. There is not a lot of direct vendor documentation on the Android frontier for the device, but once again XDA has a lot of help (although it can be an annoying hacker-troll style forum).

    I went it to this with an expectation that Apple Carplay would be my only really non-negotiable requirement. It actually did a great wireless Carplay with the ZLink software. However the more warts I discovered in using Carplay and the availability of "natural" Android solutions has completely changed my objectives now. If you like to tinker, then you will probably enjoy using this device.
     
  5. Feb 1, 2021 at 2:58 PM
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    Regarding steering wheel controls, you get into the realm of the CANBUS module options from the vendor. I have a 2013 non-JBL non-GPS rearview mirror backup camera setup. The vendor said I would require their CANBUS module to get backup camera and SWC. I was able to get SWC using the provided CANBUS module. But as expected the rearview camera did not magically appear in the headunit (didn't expect it to show over CANBUS in the first place). For additional reasons, I ended up removing the CANBUS module and using the standard harness provided with the radio to get SWC identical level of control.

    It appears to me the one potential advantage of the CANBUS module is that it provides a discrete wire for an external amplifier power-on lead. I've got a powered sub unit that is a future project. My intent is to use the power antenna lead in the provided standard harness and break that out to turn on the amplifier when I get to that point.

    I think if you have a later model or more sophisticated OEM radio then the CANBUS module might bring additional functionality to consider.
     
  6. Feb 2, 2021 at 6:55 AM
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    Well now I'm REALLY fucked....because that's exactly my style.
    When I had the Nexus 9 I used Nova to create a bunch of transparent widgets that launched respective apps based on which part of the screen I had them on. That paired with the background I put together made it look like the real freaking deal. It was a wonderful setup and I really liked it.

    [​IMG]
     
  7. Feb 4, 2021 at 9:34 AM
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    Not bad, my unit showed up yesterday. Hope to work on it this weekend.
     
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  8. Feb 4, 2021 at 10:15 AM
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    So now I have a few questions that I hope the group can help me with.

    1. We're is the best spot to pick up the reverse power signal for an aftermarket camera?

    2. Where should I bring the camera wiring in to the cab at? Is there an easy penetration point?

    3. I have the old style XM standalone head unit that uses the FM injector through the antenna, does anyone know if it will work with the Dasaita unit? My initial thought is why not, but hey, lots of my thoughts end up in the trashcan.

    I've read the entire thread, and may have seen the answers to the above, but, old and in the way.

    Thanks for all your help!
     
  9. Feb 4, 2021 at 12:44 PM
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    1). The standard wiring harness picks up reverse at pin 2 of the main connector (there are 8 more connectors plus the optional CANBUS module that can add in much more). I'm reasonably certain you won't need CANBUS for the 1st gen. I'm not certain if the 1st gen feeds pin 2 so that you could tap in there. On my 2nd gen with the backup camera in the rearview mirror, the reverse lead still gets power down in the head unit.

    2). Nothing I can add

    3). If it's the flavor I remember then it gave you 3 options for where you could tune on the FM dial to get the XM station output. The external device is where you did all the tuning to select your desired XM station. The dasaita (and virtually all the Chinese android head units in the space) has a traditional RCA style antenna input. The XM adapter should be able to fit inline at that point. Now on my 2nd gen, there was an adapter that plugged in to the Toyota specific antenna harness and created the RCA style adapter for the radio. I imagine it would be the same flavor for the 1st gen.

    Here's the pinout diagram from my (meager) owners manual.
    upload_2021-2-4_14-43-56.jpg
     
  10. Feb 4, 2021 at 2:57 PM
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    Thanks for the quick advice, mine is a gen 2 Taco. I'm going to map out a plan of attack and then freestyle the Hell out of it.
     
  11. Feb 4, 2021 at 8:47 PM
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    Doh - bad eyesight thought it was an 01.

    If you read through all the forum then you know about the challenge fitting the emergency button panel in to the provided bezel. The pure 2nd gen has a better chance at getting that fit right with the available equipment. The 2.5ers have to glue/baling wire/voodoo a solution. Not to jinx it, but now might be a good time to swing by the local Toyota shop and get a few extra plastic clips. I've had extraordinary bad luck in sending them in to the deep dark recess of the dash never to be seen again.

    The metal brackets that held the old radio don't have a hole that matches up to the new radio. It can be a real PITA trying to calculate the right hole position and too much trial and error results in metal swiss cheese. I took some of the heavy duty velcro adhesive squares that are found at the home depot. I used them to locate the bracket in such a way that I made it overly "tight" to the dash and let the velcro ease back over time to the best location. I planned to take it out and the with the bracket held in proper orientation to the radio by velcro, triangulate the hole position to drill. However the velcro has worked so well and passed the local gravel/washout road test that I've just left it in place. It says it can hold 20 lbs and I have it on each side. So far it's survived three remove/install cycles.

    The installation manual says beer is not required to complete the install. But I think it is best practice. Good luck.
     
  12. Feb 5, 2021 at 5:08 AM
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    There are solutions for the metal bracket and 2.5gen hazard.

    -You can remove the entire radio bezel and air ducts. then you can bolt the metal brackets on and fit the radio on the bench. This will allow you to much more easily drill the holes for the mounting screws in the metal bracket.

    -The hazard bezel can be obtained from a pre-2011 stock stereo and installed on the Dasaita unit. The 2.5gen hazard button fits perfectly. Kind of lame to have to buy a whole used stereo just for a small bracket but thats what I did and it works great. Here is where I did that https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...r-2nd-gen-tacoma.620084/page-42#post-24945513
     
  13. Feb 5, 2021 at 7:22 PM
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    Recently picked up an 07 tacoma that already had an aftermarket nex1400 pioneer head unit with a tailgate camera, no steering wheel controls or. What are my chances of the dasaita being plug and play? I haven't pulled it all apart, but would the harnesses be swappable as is?
     
  14. Feb 5, 2021 at 7:27 PM
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    If the stock harness has not been hacked to install the Pioneer unit then it should be 99% plug n play.

    I did not have to do any wiring with my setup, but I dont have a backup camera.
     
  15. Feb 6, 2021 at 11:16 AM
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    Nothing to add on the harness point that @ZColorado made. If you are powering your backup camera off the Pioneer then that function will need to be recreated. Not sure of your model, but I have bad memories of helping a friend with an ATOTO head unit trying to use an existing license plate camera that was inexplicably 6V powered. As long as your camera is sending a signal over a conventional RCA plug, then there is an input for that and the reverse lead on the standard harness will do a priority switch to the camera for backup before starting up the rest of the multimedia services. Here's a snap of the Camera Diagram Tips page that comes with manual. It may be of some help.
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    I’m thinking about getting one of these Dasaitos for my 2014 double cab SR5 non-JBL. I really want wireless CarPlay. Do these work and Mount well in the 2014. Is CarPlay reliable, do I need to buy adapters for car play to work? Or does it work out of the box
     
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    Boosted Money Pit....
    All you need to do is run another wire to get it to show up on the radio. The main thing is it is missing a wire in 2013. I did this when I setup the unit to run a 2015 unit. Were basically missing a wire.
     
  18. Mar 30, 2021 at 11:28 PM
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    "Dasaitos?" :D which flavor? ranch or nacho? Just kidding, I couldn't help myself...

    Yes it will work. Fits flush but you will have fitment issue with the hazard/clock part because of you year but it's easily remedied. If you want car play you'll have to buy a dongle/adapter from dasaita. I run android on all of my device's so I can't speak on reliability when pairing with iphone. But I can honestly say it's a solid unit and I love mine. Most of your concerns are covered throughout the thread :)
     
  19. Mar 30, 2021 at 11:51 PM
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    or buy the one with built-in wireless. (it may actually even just need an activation code) I run mine wireless no problem. its 90% reliable. sometimes it doesn't want to connect but some software updates helped.

    Echo what @theolee said. Its a solid unit. big screen, a ton of features. Sound is ok. Its not its best perk but if your really into that another unit or add a DSP but I like carplay and all the other feature when connected to the internet/phone.
     
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    2014 double cab not the JBL version headunit, SR5 will I be able to use factory backup camera. Its not in rearview mirror it's on the factory headunit display. Do I need a special adapter for this or any wire tapping? i don't want to have to route an aftermarket camera.
     

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