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Dealer said this screw was not pluggable - skeptical?

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by Scud, May 11, 2020.

  1. May 11, 2020 at 1:01 PM
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    Scud

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    Heard a ticking while driving with the window down, pulled over, and sure enough I had a screw in the rear driver's side tire. Stopped by the dealer and he said they couldn't plug it because it was too close to the sidewall.

    I'm a bit skeptical and the tire isn't leaking air so I'd told him I'd bring it back on my day off. What do you guys think based on the picture?

    https://imgur.com/a/x9foYUN
     
  2. May 11, 2020 at 1:03 PM
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    coopcooper

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    easy fix. most tire places/dealers don't want to plug anything close to the sidewall
     
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  3. May 11, 2020 at 1:09 PM
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    If you have a tire repair kit, use the strips and some glue and drive a bigger screw with a fat head. That’s what we do on job sites.
     
  4. May 11, 2020 at 1:11 PM
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    If you have a local fire stone they'll do it for free.
     
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  5. May 11, 2020 at 1:24 PM
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    Put soapy water on it before going to the trouble of taking it anywhere. If no leak, pull it out. Check with water again.

    That's patch-able and plug-able. Most places wont patch it because if the nail/screw is long enough, it could have rubbed/poked a hole somewhere inside on the sidewall. They just don't want to be responsible. But someone who knows how to patch can make that last as long as the tire.

    Dont keep driving on it. It might be just barely long enough to not puncture the inside layer of rubber. If you keep driving, it will work it deeper, then causing a leak. Looks like small machine screw. betting to short to go through.
     
  6. May 11, 2020 at 1:27 PM
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    tomwil

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    Really?

    I had a tire with a similar nail placement as the OP, and Firestone would not patch it for liability reasons, and insisted on purchasing a new tire.
     
  7. May 11, 2020 at 1:36 PM
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    I have not personally done it myself. But my buddy has.
     
  8. May 11, 2020 at 1:41 PM
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    kite_325

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    Same with Discount Tire
     
  9. May 11, 2020 at 1:46 PM
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    find a mom and pop independent tire shop. They'll patch it up without hesitating for $20 or less.

    big chains and dealerships no longer touch anything except for the middle area. Here's a pic for reference (some places it is even narrower)

    [​IMG]
     
  10. May 11, 2020 at 1:51 PM
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    There is zero upside for them to repair your tire. Meanwhile there's about 120 reasons for you to patch it yourself. A 'nicer' tire repair kit at your local auto parts store is super cheap and it'll take a few minutes to repair.
     
  11. May 11, 2020 at 1:56 PM
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    recently i had the same thing happen. I bought a new tire, repaired the other tire(plug) which is now my spare.

    You could buy a plug kit ($8) and try to repair your tire yourself(at your our risk)

    20200327_132148.jpg
     
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    Thanks for the replies, fellas. Stopped at a Firestone and he said it was right on the edge of it being too far to the outside of the tire for them to repair. It was too late in the day for them to try to work on it today so I'll deal with it when I'm off shift in a couple days. Not putting more than 5-10 miles on it before then. Might be a good time to upgrade to some KO2s
     
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    I just plugged one in the same spot on my RAM, didn’t want to bother with the tire shop so I plugged with the arb kit I keep in the recovery bag. Patches work well but a plug is fine.
     
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    I have the similar Stop & Go 1075, which has successfully patched everything I've thrown at it.

    https://www.amazon.com/Stop-Go-1075-Standard-Plugger/dp/B0018EUDHW

    I like yours, because it has 2 plug sizes, and includes cement.
     
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    Plug by itself doesn't seal the inner liner.
    Patch by itself doesn't fill the void.
    Firestone uses a patch-plug combo requiring <1" be ground off the tire for proper adhesion. Patch-plug should not be exposed to deflection forces.
     
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    I have plugged dozens of tires with just the goopy string and rubber cement plug kit and never had one fail.
     
  18. May 12, 2020 at 4:27 AM
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    I don't know if that's directed toward me or not; but I'll take the opportunity to explain why I said, what I said.
    There are reasons 'they' won't patch near the sidewall, beyond liability or a new tire sale.
    Nothing I posted is factually incorrect, nor did I claim failure is imminent with a plug kit. I'm just trying to take the edge off of some of the skepticism.:)
     
  19. May 12, 2020 at 4:39 AM
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    If it was me, I would just plug it and be done
     
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    I’ve also plugged many tires with success. If it were mine, I’d plug it and keep rolling. Tire shops don’t want to do it because they are worried about liability in the sue happy society we live in now.
     
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