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Dealer says lift kit he installed CANNOT BE UNDONE!

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by Oldbuzzard, May 14, 2019.

  1. May 14, 2019 at 12:42 PM
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    Picked up brand new Tacoma Ltd last week. This was my first Toyota truck after driving Nissan trucks and SUVs for years. When picking out accessories the dealer said he could install a two inch or four inch lift kit. I went with the four inch. When I picked up the truck it sat too high so I said I wanted to change to the two inch kit. The Accessory Manager said he could not change the lift and it would forever have to be what it is. I can't believe that. I don't know where/who made the lift kit he used. Can anyone give me some advice?
     
  2. May 14, 2019 at 12:43 PM
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    Pics of the lift components? I am guessing they are either full of shit, or did some sort of drop bracket fuckery.
     
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    If it was a drop bracket lift that was installed then the frame is cut in order to accommodate for the steep cv angle (if 4x4). If this is what was installed, it might not be possible to undo...
     
  4. May 14, 2019 at 12:44 PM
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    Anchovy

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    Odds are for the 4 inch lift they had to cut out the old cross member up front and weld in a new one. So yes, it cannot be undone
     
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    4" is most likely a drop bracket lift, there is a cross member that gets cut out so technically it can't be reversed, at least not easily or cheaply, get a set of steps or learn to live with it are your least expensive choices
     
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    uh oh

     
  7. May 14, 2019 at 12:46 PM
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    Realistically it’s their fault for not telling you what had to be done and that once on, the 4 inch lift cannot be undone. Although the 2 inch lift would be easy to undo since it’s most likely just blocks
     
  8. May 14, 2019 at 12:49 PM
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    Here and there....
    You can undo any lift including DB. Have welder will travel. :)
     
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    It can be undone but you'd have to get a new crossmember welded to the frame where the original was cut off...people have done it. But I can see why a dealer won't
     
  10. May 14, 2019 at 12:51 PM
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    Steal a new tacoma and weld off all of the VIN plates from your old vehicle so its technically yours.. I think that works.
     
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    Have the dealer do it
     
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    Obviously, without all the details, it's impossible to say for sure. But my guess would be that he's not saying what you want is not doable, he's saying that you said 4", they installed 4" and that they aren't reversing it on their own dime. Understandable if it was a drop bracket lift. However, the last thing I want to do is take a dealer's side, so I would say that you should have been shown examples of each lift before you had to decide.
     
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    This one is rough country, but all 4-6inch lifts are similar procedures.

    Take note of instruction #30, because you cut out and remove the factory lower control arm crossmember, you can’t revert unless you find a donor and weld factory member back in. 3inches is the highest you can go on a factory 4x4.

    https://s3.amazonaws.com/roughcountry/install/921748200.pdf
     
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    I don't think the dealer is to blame here. While its truly sucky for OP, this is just the result of agreeing and signing things without reading or doing the research beforehand. OP obviously didn't know what a 4 inch lift involved, and unfortunately, here's the result. Sorry this happened OP, but we've all made mistakes before. At least this was done by a dealer so I'm sure its warrantied should you ever run into any issues with it down the road.
     
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    I assume you got bigger tires put on with the lift, easiest way to lower the truck would be to get smaller tires
     
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    Like, so many.
    Neither of those dealer options are great. 4 inches seems too high, 2 inches would likely be blocks.
     
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    Here and there....

    I would simply weld in the cut out portion, add gussets and be done with it.
     
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    Chances are there are several things at play here: the most important being time and money. The dealer just spent 8-10 hours installing a 4” lift, which has real costs in parts and labor. Asking to undo it and installing a different lift involves many more hours and many more parts which someone has to pay for. If the lift was part of the deal, it becomes difficult to untangle.

    Per who is responsible: I’d say both the dealer and the buyer. Knowing what I know, I’d never get a lift higher than 2.5 or 3 inches. That’s plenty for what 99% of us want to do out there. Going higher than that starts compromising too many parts, and throwing ride and handling —as well as entry/exit— to shit. For its part, the dealer should have made absolutely certain that the buyer understood well what a 4” lift involved, and really wanted it.

    Where to go from here...? Depends at what stage the deal is. If all the papers are signed and the financing secured...OP, you better find a sturdy step stool...
     
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    Waiting to see it on 4 inch blocks lol
     
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