1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Decided on a lift

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by kilgoja, Jan 16, 2010.

  1. Jan 16, 2010 at 4:53 PM
    #1
    kilgoja

    kilgoja [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2009
    Member:
    #18685
    Messages:
    592
    Gender:
    Male
    Alabama
    Vehicle:
    2009 regular cab 4x4 2.7L (silver)
    :mudding:
    ok i been reading all these threads the past few days and i have decided i'm gonna go with the toytec coilovers (gonna get the silver springs) and set them to 1.75" or close to that and put 5100 bilstein shocks in the back....not gonna lift the back..basically the toytec ultimate lift kit without the aal....i have a reg cab so no tsb for the reg cab...it is fine already...just trying to level out the truck a bit...but still want a little rake from front to rear so when i'm hauling something like an atv the nose isn't up in the air.... when you lift higher like 2.5 or 3 inches in the front you run into problems like having to buy uca's and cv boots wearing and alignment issues etc....i'm really anal about stuff like that...lol...anyways i can always aal later and change it if i decide to go that route
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  2. Jan 16, 2010 at 5:03 PM
    #2
    kiddwvman

    kiddwvman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2009
    Member:
    #26068
    Messages:
    208
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    leon
    WV
    Vehicle:
    06 4 banger
    weathertec floor liner,tinted windows,bilstein 5100 front .85,5100'S rear,window vents,K@N air filter
    i got a 06 regular cab i put 5100's up front at .85 looks alot better
     
  3. Jan 16, 2010 at 5:04 PM
    #3
    ColtsTRD

    ColtsTRD .....

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Member:
    #17177
    Messages:
    17,826
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Scott
    AZ
    Vehicle:
    2005 TRD DCSB
    Congrats bro! Post up pics when its installed
     
  4. Jan 16, 2010 at 5:16 PM
    #4
    kilgoja

    kilgoja [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2009
    Member:
    #18685
    Messages:
    592
    Gender:
    Male
    Alabama
    Vehicle:
    2009 regular cab 4x4 2.7L (silver)
    :mudding:
    can you post some pics of it?
     
  5. Jan 16, 2010 at 11:31 PM
    #5
    sincitytaco

    sincitytaco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2008
    Member:
    #10011
    Messages:
    870
    Gender:
    Male
    Las Vegas
    Icons, Bilstein 5100, Rear Leaf TSB, 17x9 American Racing Chamber Teflon, 275/70/17 Goodyear
    awesome decision.
     
  6. Jan 16, 2010 at 11:38 PM
    #6
    kilgoja

    kilgoja [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2009
    Member:
    #18685
    Messages:
    592
    Gender:
    Male
    Alabama
    Vehicle:
    2009 regular cab 4x4 2.7L (silver)
    :mudding:
    thx :)

    well i talked to the toytec guys today and one was saying i should have a 1" rake from front to back from the factory but when i measure i have 2.5" or more...he says my front springs must have sagged some....i'm measureing about 5" from the front tire to the front fender and about 7.5" or more in the rear....also another guy from toytec suggested a 500lb eibach spring instead of the 600lb that normally comes on the coilover since i have a reg cab and don't plan on lifting too high....says it will ride much softer and smoother....so i'll keep this updated....trying to figure out how to get about a 3/4" rake instead of the 2.5" rake i have now front to back or close to that

    DA1210

    stock:
    measurements from top of tires to bottom of fenders: LF: 5" RF: 5 1/8" ........ measurements from the ground: LF: 34 1/2" RF: 34 5/8"
    .................................................. ....................... LR: 7 3/8" RR: 8" .................................................. . LR: 36 7/8" RR: 37 1/2"
     
  7. Jan 20, 2010 at 10:42 AM
    #7
    kilgoja

    kilgoja [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2009
    Member:
    #18685
    Messages:
    592
    Gender:
    Male
    Alabama
    Vehicle:
    2009 regular cab 4x4 2.7L (silver)
    :mudding:
    well now i'm starting to second guess myself....i'm thinking it might be better for me to just go with the 5100s and set them at 1.75" instead of getting the coilovers...since that is what i would be setting the coilovers at anyways which could get confusing trying to get them exactly the same on both sides....so then i would have to decide whether or not to use the stock springs or the optional 500lb eibach spring that guy from toytec was talking about....does anyone know what the stock spring rate is???...i can't seem to find that info anywhere on here.....that one guy saying that the ride was kinda stiff with the 5100s is kinda what got me questioning going with the stock springs...but if the stock springs are 500lb as well i would just stick with the stockers...but if they are more than 500lbs i will go with the eibachs since it will make the ride less stiff

    the coilovers and 5100 rear shocks would cost around $1000
    the 5100s front and rear with the eibach springs would be around $500
    5100s front and rear would be about $300 (if using stock springs)

    right now everything is out of stock everywhere...5100s and coilovers.... so i'm trying to decide before they get them in stock again...lol
     
  8. Jan 20, 2010 at 11:22 AM
    #8
    sincitytaco

    sincitytaco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2008
    Member:
    #10011
    Messages:
    870
    Gender:
    Male
    Las Vegas
    Icons, Bilstein 5100, Rear Leaf TSB, 17x9 American Racing Chamber Teflon, 275/70/17 Goodyear
    keep your stock springs and set them at 1.75. Keep the cost down. In order to lift a truck there needs to be a certain amount of pressure on the coil. So if you use a softer spring you will need more preload to achieve the same amount of lift as a heaviers spring with less preload.
     
  9. Jan 20, 2010 at 11:28 AM
    #9
    kilgoja

    kilgoja [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2009
    Member:
    #18685
    Messages:
    592
    Gender:
    Male
    Alabama
    Vehicle:
    2009 regular cab 4x4 2.7L (silver)
    :mudding:
    ok...i was wondering that as well....the stock and the eibach 500lb may be the same...i have no idea...that's something i was thinking about before...like if i had a coilover...which would ride softer on the road?...a 600lb spring compressed at 1" or a 500lb spring compressed at 1.75" or something...or would it be about the same either way?....i know some people are running the eibach 620lb 1.6" springs at .85 setting but i was thinking the 620lb spring would be too stiff for a reg cab

    an example: would it be a better ride going with the eibach 1.6" 620lb spring setting at .85" on the 5100 or to run stock spring set at 1.75" on the 5100???

    that's where all the confusion comes in...i would be willing to pay for new springs if it would make a better ride on road since i use my truck as a daily driver...at the lower setting the 620lb spring is compressed less but it's a stiffer spring....and the other option the stock spring is compressed more but it's a softer spring...which is better?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (pulls hair out)


    i've never lifted a truck before...my old truck i bought it used and it already had a 3" body lift on it so i didn't have to worry with springs or shocks or coilovers or whatever...lol
     
  10. Jan 20, 2010 at 11:49 AM
    #10
    TacoSupreem

    TacoSupreem Dirty Trucker

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2009
    Member:
    #27935
    Messages:
    2,419
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Hayden
    Kentucky
    Vehicle:
    2013 MGM DCSB 4x4 Sport
    Get the billy's and set at 1.75. From what I here the toytec coilovers are hard to adjust. U gotta take the tires off and probably need to people? Do u really need to be able to adjust alot? Save the $$ get the billy's with a taco leAn spacer and call it a day!
     
  11. Jan 20, 2010 at 11:57 AM
    #11
    kilgoja

    kilgoja [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2009
    Member:
    #18685
    Messages:
    592
    Gender:
    Male
    Alabama
    Vehicle:
    2009 regular cab 4x4 2.7L (silver)
    :mudding:
    yeah that's what i heard so i changed my mind...don't really need to adjust now that i think about it more.... trying to figure out which springs to use stock or eibach 500lb or eibach 1.6" 620lb?

    i'm kindof leaning the way of sticking with the stock springs

    my taco lean is only 1/8th of an inch in the front...doesn't really bother me....the back end it's 1/2"

    i think the suspension being a little stiffer would be great i just don't want it to get too stiff....it would help going around sharp turns and such but if you don't know alabama roads suck....lots of potholes, road repairs, bridges, etc.... just don't want to get where it beats me to death...lol
     
  12. Jan 21, 2010 at 12:44 AM
    #12
    kilgoja

    kilgoja [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2009
    Member:
    #18685
    Messages:
    592
    Gender:
    Male
    Alabama
    Vehicle:
    2009 regular cab 4x4 2.7L (silver)
    :mudding:
    well i been talking with the guy from toytec and he's saying it's better to use a lifting coil than to compress a stock coil as you will get a better ride and have more flex....so he is suggesting using a 500lb OME lifting coil to use with the 5100s...the 500lb eibach coil only fits the coilovers not on the 5100 shock itself..stay tuned
     
  13. Jan 21, 2010 at 7:37 AM
    #13
    nelson18matt

    nelson18matt Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2009
    Member:
    #14939
    Messages:
    13,842
    Gender:
    Male
    Goodyear, Arizona
    Vehicle:
    2004 Long Travel Tacoma
    *SOLD*
    i'd get the OME shocks to go with the OME lift coil. the shocks are valved to match the spring, you'll have a better ride...
     
  14. Jan 21, 2010 at 9:27 AM
    #14
    kilgoja

    kilgoja [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2009
    Member:
    #18685
    Messages:
    592
    Gender:
    Male
    Alabama
    Vehicle:
    2009 regular cab 4x4 2.7L (silver)
    :mudding:
    yeah that's something i could do....i think the coils i'm getting are the 883 or something...or maybe 884...since i have a reg cab i don't need as stiff of a spring to get the lift or as long of a spring....i'll double check that...i know they recommend using the OME shocks with the 885 and 886

    edit: yeah they are saying go with the 883 springs on the billy's at stock height (0") and it will give me 1 1/2" of lift up front...i sent them an email asking if there would be much difference using the ome shocks and they said the ome shocks are made to go with the 885 and 886 stiffer springs....they said the 883 ome springs can be used with the stock shocks or the billy's at 0" setting
     
  15. Jan 22, 2010 at 1:53 AM
    #15
    kilgoja

    kilgoja [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2009
    Member:
    #18685
    Messages:
    592
    Gender:
    Male
    Alabama
    Vehicle:
    2009 regular cab 4x4 2.7L (silver)
    :mudding:
    so now my lift is this whenever the shocks come in anywhere...lol

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  16. Mar 15, 2010 at 6:41 PM
    #16
    litlcrickett

    litlcrickett Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2010
    Member:
    #30744
    Messages:
    13
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Brad
    Sanford, NC
    Vehicle:
    2010 Reg Cab 4x4
    Have you done this yet? I have a 2010 4x4 reg cab and have got a set of 5100s. Didnt want to compress the springs so Im wanting to buy the lift coils and cant decide which ones.
     
  17. Apr 5, 2010 at 2:57 PM
    #17
    kilgoja

    kilgoja [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2009
    Member:
    #18685
    Messages:
    592
    Gender:
    Male
    Alabama
    Vehicle:
    2009 regular cab 4x4 2.7L (silver)
    :mudding:
    ok i finally got some billys and got them installed today...they are set on the 0" setting on the billys and with the OME 883 springs they give around 1"-1 1/2" lift....they are perfect...the ride doesn't seem to be any stiffer than stock maybe a tad...still smooth over bumps and stuff which is what i wanted...and now i have about a 3/4"-1" rake which is what i wanted...about an inch higher in the rear than the front....looks awesome and works great...they should've come stock this way.....only bad thing about this is the installation cost...lol...all four shocks(5100 billys) and ome 883 springs costs about $475 to buy...the installation cost was the same...i guess it depends where you go but i went to the dealer...so total cost was about $950 to get it done...not too bad i guess considering my tires, wheels, and tire pressure valve stems i got put on cost around $2000 total...lol
     
  18. Apr 9, 2010 at 2:16 PM
    #18
    kilgoja

    kilgoja [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2009
    Member:
    #18685
    Messages:
    592
    Gender:
    Male
    Alabama
    Vehicle:
    2009 regular cab 4x4 2.7L (silver)
    :mudding:
    a few pics

    before:

    [​IMG]

    after:

    [​IMG]
     
  19. Apr 9, 2010 at 3:23 PM
    #19
    ToyTec Lifts

    ToyTec Lifts Toyota Suspension specialist Vendor

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2009
    Member:
    #12472
    Messages:
    966
    Gender:
    Male
    Rocky Mountains
    Vehicle:
    Toyota's are awesome
    Looks nice, thanks for sharing.
     
  20. Apr 9, 2010 at 4:30 PM
    #20
    kilgoja

    kilgoja [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2009
    Member:
    #18685
    Messages:
    592
    Gender:
    Male
    Alabama
    Vehicle:
    2009 regular cab 4x4 2.7L (silver)
    :mudding:
To Top